CTB by consuming lily of the valley?

[daphskullz]

lily of the valley is super easily accessible to me, wondering if it would be possible to CTB if i consumed a handful of them? or just the success rate of using poisonous plants in general

 

[Winry]

Bumping bc I also have thought of this lol
Although every time I read the side effects it sounds awful. I don't exactly want to die seizing, vomiting and shitting myself

 

[ThisIsLife]

I suspect you've watched Breaking Bad ;)

Very unpleasant side effects.

 

[TooConscious]

Not trying to be insulting just I'd rather use it as the scent for my shake n vacuum lol.

 

[JAlexa]

Here are several threads that have discussed Lily of the Valley as a method:
[1] -- [2] -- [3] -- [4] -- [5] -- [6].

Yesterday, I wrote a lengthy post explaining what you need to be mindful of when selecting plants for CTB & why fatal dosages have so much variance. As such, I only recommend plant-based methods if you have a personal reason for choosing them over SN, inert gas, or Night-Night methods - all of which are well-documented on this forum & in scientific research (by comparison).

Plant deaths aren't peaceful, painless, or quick. Their toxins are an evolutionary adaptation to ensure survival and reproduction. The average person or animal wouldn't eat poisonous berries again if it made them sick for a week.

Take this from someone who also prefers natural, "undetectable" methods. My family, particularly my mom, will go on a conspiracy witchhunt if I CTB by SN. There is no alternate explanation for a SN death - cyanosis due to methemoglobinemia turns your skin blue/gray & the presence of SN can be confirmed in an autopsy/lab panel.

Last year, I attempted using ~50 aconitum seeds, which I have previously discussed on this forum. Regardless of your chosen plant, you are unlikely to succeed unless you consume a lot (in my case, 200+ seeds as they were small), at which point you may require antiemetics & other medications depending on your symptoms.

To be clear, I'm not discouraging plant-based methods, but you have to do additional research and prepare in excess if you want some semblance of a peaceful death. There are a lot of unknowns - even scientists don't fully understand the mechanism of action for plant toxins.

 

[Winry]

Here are several threads that have discussed Lily of the Valley as a method:
[1] -- [2] -- [3] -- [4] -- [5] -- [6].

Yesterday, I wrote a lengthy post explaining what you need to be mindful of when selecting plants for CTB & why fatal dosages have so much variance. As such, I only recommend plant-based methods if you have a personal reason for choosing them over SN, inert gas, or Night-Night methods - all of which are well-documented on this forum & in scientific research (by comparison).

Plant deaths aren't peaceful, painless, or quick. Their toxins are an evolutionary adaptation to ensure survival and reproduction. The average person or animal wouldn't eat poisonous berries again if it made them sick for a week.

Take this from someone who also prefers natural, "undetectable" methods. My family, particularly my mom, will go on a conspiracy witchhunt if I CTB by SN. There is no alternate explanation for a SN death - cyanosis due to methemoglobinemia turns your skin blue/gray & the presence of SN can be confirmed in an autopsy/lab panel.

Last year, I attempted using ~50 aconitum seeds, which I have previously discussed on this forum. Regardless of your chosen plant, you are unlikely to succeed unless you consume a lot (in my case, 200+ seeds as they were small), at which point you may require antiemetics & other medications depending on your symptoms.

To be clear, I'm not discouraging plant-based methods, but you have to do additional research and prepare in excess if you want some semblance of a peaceful death. There are a lot of unknowns - even scientists don't fully understand the mechanism of action for plant toxins.

Thanks for this

 

[daphskullz]

I suspect you've watched Breaking Bad ;)

Very unpleasant side effects.

i never did actually haha, my sister did! you're right about the side effects though

Here are several threads that have discussed Lily of the Valley as a method:
[1] -- [2] -- [3] -- [4] -- [5] -- [6].

Yesterday, I wrote a lengthy post explaining what you need to be mindful of when selecting plants for CTB & why fatal dosages have so much variance. As such, I only recommend plant-based methods if you have a personal reason for choosing them over SN, inert gas, or Night-Night methods - all of which are well-documented on this forum & in scientific research (by comparison).

Plant deaths aren't peaceful, painless, or quick. Their toxins are an evolutionary adaptation to ensure survival and reproduction. The average person or animal wouldn't eat poisonous berries again if it made them sick for a week.

Take this from someone who also prefers natural, "undetectable" methods. My family, particularly my mom, will go on a conspiracy witchhunt if I CTB by SN. There is no alternate explanation for a SN death - cyanosis due to methemoglobinemia turns your skin blue/gray & the presence of SN can be confirmed in an autopsy/lab panel.

Last year, I attempted using ~50 aconitum seeds, which I have previously discussed on this forum. Regardless of your chosen plant, you are unlikely to succeed unless you consume a lot (in my case, 200+ seeds as they were small), at which point you may require antiemetics & other medications depending on your symptoms.

To be clear, I'm not discouraging plant-based methods, but you have to do additional research and prepare in excess if you want some semblance of a peaceful death. There are a lot of unknowns - even scientists don't fully understand the mechanism of action for plant toxins.

thank you so much for this. you're very educated and it shows.
i do have a personal reason for looking for alternative methods because i still live with my parents and it would be difficult for me to get anything delivered and such without raising suspicion. will keep this in mind for the future, thanks again

 

[JAlexa]

Thank you so much for this. you're very educated and it shows.
i do have a personal reason for looking for alternative methods because i still live with my parents and it would be difficult for me to get anything delivered and such without raising suspicion. will keep this in mind for the future, thanks again

No problem, I'm glad to help! Natural methods have always piqued my interest, as they've been used for centuries with success & without the advent of modern medicine.

I can sympathize with your current living arrangement - I also live with my parents at 26. Embarrassing and sad, I know. Fortunately, my parents understand not to open packages addressed to me without my approval. However, this doesn't stop my mom from inspecting exterior packaging for information. She's a helicopter mom, so that's to be expected.

Nonetheless, I wish you luck in whatever method you choose to achieve eternal peace. I still believe Cerbera odallum (pong pong) to be the best natural option for CTB due to its track record. Death arrives within a few hours (assuming you consume at least 2 kernals) & cerberin cannot be detected though Western tests due to it's rarity, but this may change in the future. You would appear to have passed in your sleep from heart complications. :)

Plus, you can grow extra seeds into a tree bearing poisonous fruits!