Discussion CTB at the most inopportune time

[ManWithNoName]

When is a good time? A good friend of mine's son ctb a year and a half ago, and just now another good friend of mine's father took his own life.

A part of me can't help but think of how my ctb will impact them, though I do believe that this is not sufficient reason not to carry out self deliverance—nonetheless this makes my ctb a bit more complicated.

 

[Nem]

Sorry to hear. I don't think there is ever a good time to ctb, maybe away from Christmas perhaps?
Peace/hugs

 

[Thinking Beyond]

When is a good time? A good friend of mine's son ctb a year and a half ago, and just now another good friend of mine's father took his own life.

A part of me can't help but think of how my ctb will impact them, though I do believe that this is not sufficient reason not to carry out self deliverance—nonetheless this makes my ctb a bit more complicated.

Suicide is contagious. But I think it's only contagious because we are taught from a young age that people shouldn't commit suicide. That makes society possessive over others. And when that possession is broken it hurts them even more. But my thing is that in a perfect society we shouldn't possess anyone from the start within reason. It's like if I move to another country a healthy family would support my decision. Because they don't posses me. A needy controlling family would not support me in moving away though. Same for suicide.

 

[faust]

Hello,
If you do not know what is the right time, listen what your heart tells.
Nobody can say that for sure, you have to determine that yourself.
Of course if you are worried about people who surround you, you can pick a date which may reduce the stress of others.
Eventually we will be gone anyway, so the pain after your death will be inevitable, you can only reduce it.
And if you write a good note before you go, it may be easier to live with the knowledge that you no more exist.

 

[ManWithNoName]

And if you write a good note before you go, it may be easier to live with the knowledge that you no more exist.

I've been considering doing this, in a delayed email.

 

[HorribleFeelings1]

When is a good time? A good friend of mine's son ctb a year and a half ago, and just now another good friend of mine's father took his own life.

A part of me can't help but think of how my ctb will impact them, though I do believe that this is not sufficient reason not to carry out self deliverance—nonetheless this makes my ctb a bit more complicated.

Heyyy (: I try to CTB on the least important dates possible, away from friends/families birthdays, away from holidays and take whatever opportunity there is, that's me tho

 

[Absurdity]

I think there will never be a 'truly perfect' time to ctb, if you're worrying about the impact on your loved ones. Except maybe if everyone of those people accepts and supports your choice (or rather your lack of a choice) -- but for most people on here, that will never happen.

That's an inherent problem of suicide: the fact that you have to choose to do it, automatically brings all kinds of worries attached to this choice. 'Natural death' just comes, no one can/will blame you for the unfortunate time of your death or the fact that you died (if at all, they could only blame the universe, god or fate).

And it's the underlying reason for many discussions on here and why so many people wish they'd just not wake up tomorrow or die in an accident, they don't want to make that choice.
And you alone have to make it, because again, most people won't have full support in this decision from their family/friends. (I don't blame the latter ones. Especially if there's no 'truly' terminal illness involved, there will always be hope in some way, may it be irrational, and that creates some kind of dilemma which they can't/don't want to resolve)

But if you have decided that there's no other way and know all that, you can use it to free yourself from this worry about the perfect time and just choose a 'good enough' time

(sorry, much longer than I wanted it to be this topic just was on my mind lately..)

 

[ManWithNoName]

I think there will never be a 'truly perfect' time to ctb, if you're worrying about the impact on your loved ones. Except maybe if everyone of those people accepts and supports your choice (or rather your lack of a choice) -- but for most people on here, that will never happen.

That's an inherent problem of suicide: the fact that you have to choose to do it, automatically brings all kinds of worries attached to this choice. 'Natural death' just comes, no one can/will blame you for the unfortunate time of your death or the fact that you died (if at all, they could only blame the universe, god or fate).

And it's the underlying reason for many discussions on here and why so many people wish they'd just not wake up tomorrow or die in an accident, they don't want to make that choice.
And you alone have to make it, because again, most people won't have full support in this decision from their family/friends. (I don't blame the latter ones. Especially if there's no 'truly' terminal illness involved, there will always be hope in some way, may it be irrational, and that creates some kind of dilemma which they can't/don't want to resolve)

But if you have decided that there's no other way and know all that, you can use it to free yourself from this worry about the perfect time and just choose a 'good enough' time

(sorry, much longer than I wanted it to be this topic just was on my mind lately..)

Thanks. The other possibility is for me is to ctb without any identification papers / documents / drivers license—essentially dying as a "John Doe". Of course my friends will be wondering what happened to me, but the question is, considering they have had family members ctb, would it not be better if I ctb'd as a "missing person" or to ctb and they find out I ctb'd? First case scenario I just 'disappear' yet they do not find out I took my own life, or I carry out self deliverance and they find out?