Corpse Exposure & Consideration.

[Misanthrope]

This is an attempt to get you to consider the potential trauma the sight of your corpse can trigger. There is nothing clean or pleasant about dying, and leaving it up to strangers or loved ones to find you is exceptionally cruel and inconsiderate. It is pretty much the textbook definition of selfish, and I know how you all hate that word on here. If you are engaged in rational suicide you should be controlling the factors surrounding your death, including who finds you. The considerate thing is trying to limit discovery down to frontline services that have to deal with cadavers as part of their job description. Even they can suffer the sights they see, so imagine how much more magnified that is to a potential loved one or a stranger who was just going about their day with no expectation of encountering a corpse in whatever state it manifests.

It is a well-documented fact that exposure to a cadaver can cause post-traumatic stress disorder in people. It can leave people haunted with the sight and smells resurfacing, existing on in nightmares long after the encounter. There are plenty on this site with PTSD, and that hell can be a driver of their own reasons to suicide. So I am sure they would not wish it on anyone else. So don't jeopardise the psyche of others in this way. You have no idea who may potentially find you if you leave it up to chance. You have no idea what their pre-existing associations with death may well be already. The minds of others are potentially fragile. So you have a responsibility to minimise potential harm as much as possible.

Even though hotels have policies surrounding dead guest it is still distressing for the staff to walk in on a contorted body leaking excrement down the side of the bed. Some have quit their jobs over it, too scared to want to open another guest room door because of what may lay on the other side of it.

It is the same for train drivers, some become traumatised from seeing people explode giblets across their windscreen and have to quit as a result.

If your loved ones find you they will be left with that final disturbing image, it will contaminate prior memories and images. It will linger the entire way through any grieving process and never be forgotten decades on. Your suicide is potentially going to cause pain anyway, but you should at least make efforts to minimise the trauma as much as possible. You just don't get the sight of corpses out of your head.

It is far kinder on all concerned to try and die somewhere privately instead of publicly.
You may have given up on life but you still have the choice to be considerate with who you expose your corpse too. If it means you have to set up delayed messages to have the authorities be the ones to find you, you should probably aim to do that. If you can reason out your suicide and its execution I don't see why you can't reason out consideration for others as well.

I wish you peace in whatever form that may take.

 

[Empty RN]

Thank you so much for putting this out there for all of us to think about. You make excellent, well thought out points. I don't believe anyone on here wants to cause more pain to others. I'll come back and reread this. You are very right how disturbing death can be for those not accustomed to working with it or even if they are via a suicide. It's a very different area.

 

[Xerxes]

Death is an ugly affair. Even if you're dressed up in your Sunday's best, after a few days, you'll look horrible, bloated, and smelly. I chose the forest because by the time someone finds me, I'll be dried up or a skeleton by then. Also if they need to identify me, I'll only have one person come to identify me because I know he would be elated to see me dead.

 

[Arak]

If I were to use SN I wouldn't like to expose the people I 'leave behind' to that grisly corpse. I vaguely recall what SN can do, and once the corpse starts rotting ... I would't trust something like timecave, and I'd hate to send someone I know a delayed email that I had 'expired'.

And the funeral ... not an open casket, I guess. What those 'pro lifers' can get us into ...

 

[weedoge]

Interesting topic, OP. I've considered this for myself but never really held other people to those same standards, people will do what they gotta do. But thank you for putting this out there, these are the kinds of threads we should like to see, not the constant jokes and obviously non-serious threads.

Thank you

 

[weedoge]

I don't believe anyone on here wants to cause more pain to others

God I really wish I could believe this

 

[TiredHorse]

A good thread.

It's definitely something I've considered. I have a triple-redundant system in place to make sure my corpse is found quickly by law enforcement (prepared/inured to corpses) rather than family or friends. I intend to use eb/N2 to make my corpse as aesthetically acceptable as possible. I have changed my plans so that I now intend to ctb inside, rather than outside on the porch swing, as the coyotes have been growing more bold in how close they come to my house and I don't want them chewing on my corpse.

The details are important.

 

[crova]

This is an attempt to get you to consider the potential trauma the sight of your corpse can trigger. There is nothing clean or pleasant about dying, and leaving it up to strangers or loved ones to find you is exceptionally cruel and inconsiderate. It is pretty much the textbook definition of selfish, and I know how you all hate that word on here. If you are engaged in rational suicide you should be controlling the factors surrounding your death, including who finds you. The considerate thing is trying to limit discovery down to frontline services that have to deal with cadavers as part of their job description. Even they can suffer the sights they see, so imagine how much more magnified that is to a potential loved one or a stranger who was just going about their day with no expectation of encountering a corpse in whatever state it manifests.

It is a well-documented fact that exposure to a cadaver can cause post-traumatic stress disorder in people. It can leave people haunted with the sight and smells resurfacing, existing on in nightmares long after the encounter. There are plenty on this site with PTSD, and that hell can be a driver of their own reasons to suicide. So I am sure they would not wish it on anyone else. So don't jeopardise the psyche of others in this way. You have no idea who may potentially find you if you leave it up to chance. You have no idea what their pre-existing associations with death may well be already. The minds of others are potentially fragile. So you have a responsibility to minimise potential harm as much as possible.

Even though hotels have policies surrounding dead guest it is still distressing for the staff to walk in on a contorted body leaking excrement down the side of the bed. Some have quit their jobs over it, too scared to want to open another guest room door because of what may lay on the other side of it.

It is the same for train drivers, some become traumatised from seeing people explode giblets across their windscreen and have to quit as a result.

If your loved ones find you they will be left with that final disturbing image, it will contaminate prior memories and images. It will linger the entire way through any grieving process and never be forgotten decades on. Your suicide is potentially going to cause pain anyway, but you should at least make efforts to minimise the trauma as much as possible. You just don't get the sight of corpses out of your head.

It is far kinder on all concerned to try and die somewhere privately instead of publicly.
You may have given up on life but you still have the choice to be considerate with who you expose your corpse too. If it means you have to set up delayed messages to have the authorities be the ones to find you, you should probably aim to do that. If you can reason out your suicide and its execution I don't see why you can't reason out consideration for others as well.

I wish you peace in whatever form that may take.

Suicide by jumping into a volcano is the answer!

OR
Do you guys remember a movie: Alien 3? Ripley jumped into the furnace...

[I really love the Alien series, and this is majestic scene to watch indeed]

 

[Lra888]

Suicide by jumping into a volcano is the answer!

OR
Do you guys remember a movie: Alien 3? Ripley jumped into the furnace...

[I really love the Alien series, and this is majestic scene to watch indeed]

Alien 3 really upset me as a child. How could they kill Newt & Hicks?

 

[crova]

I agree.
Alien is not exactly family type movie... monsters exist.

 

[Jen Erik]

I'd hate to send someone I know a delayed email that I had 'expired'.

This concerned me as well. I'm considering sending an email to my area's public health department responders, the kind who come out to investigate the deaths of the indigent, etc.

 

[TAW122]

This is an interesting post, and yes when I ctb, I do strive to minimize harm and pain to the people around me. However, I am afraid that I cannot compromise my chances of success just for others. In other words, I will do my best not to let those who are close to me or other bystanders see me when I ctb, but it will be inevitable that some others will see it such as first responders when they come to retrieve the body. My priority is to ensure that I successfully ctb first and foremost, then minimizing suffering for those around me as much as I can, but I cannot risk failure by putting them before me.

 

[Lra888]

I assume that my corpse will invoke necrophile lust in the observer.

 

[TheLastTrip]

Good points, I'd hate to cause PTSD in another, even though from N my death would be relatively peaceful then it's still a dead body which is traumatic enough (finding someone hanging would traumatise me).

Based on your post I will leave a sign on the bathroom door warning of what lays beyond and telling them to get the authorities to come and deal with it.

 

[worldexploder]

I have PTSD from living. I am not going to stay alive to prevent others from having PTSD. Never signed up for that job. You made some really good points but life is traumatic. It's ugly and gruesome wether you CTB, or die from some horrific accident or painful disease. My aunt has PTSD from losing her mother (my grandma) from COPD.

We can't walk on eggshells worrying about if some police officer is going to puke from seeing our dead bodies in a hotel room. Nature is a brutal machine and it's hungry for more blood. But people keep feeding the machine causing more suffering, more loss, and more trauma.

If we had the universal right to die this would be a non-issue. People could drink the Nembutal and die peacefully in a bed surrounded by professionals in a non-shocking and predictable manner. But society objects - therefore will have to continue running into bloated corpses.

With that being said, when I do CTB, I would like it to be as less traumatic as possible for loved ones. But that's sort of hard to do.

 

[Arak]

I agree.
Alien is not exactly family type movie... monsters exist.

Like a certain doctor I knew ...

 

[Arak]

Suicide by jumping into a volcano is the answer!

OR
Do you guys remember a movie: Alien 3? Ripley jumped into the furnace...

[I really love the Alien series, and this is majestic scene to watch indeed]

Unfortunately the lava in a volcano is about 1,000 degrees Centrigrade and the same goes for molten steel. That's a rough approximation, I remember a certain article and a vid. In the end you'll die if noone rescues you but you'll basically burn alive. And not that quick. It seems you can actually stand on lava. Toxic fumes in a volcano are something else.

 

[Shewaitsforme]

Brilliant post. I was gonna go to the hotel my partner died in but rethinking that now. What if the cleaner who found her found me, would they cope. Also 2 deaths in that hotel in 6 months i wonder what would happen.

 

[Putridsoul]

Meh, the person which would likely find me kind of deserves it so whatever. I've cared about others my whole life, I am not carrying this to even how I die. I certainly don't want my death to "not bother". A death is a death, it is traumatic and it should be.

 

[catwalk]

well, that wont be my problem

 

[Dani Paradox]

Fortunately, due to the SN, when my dad finds my corpse it should really only sort of look like it's sleeping, aside from the rosy skin and blue fingers, etc. Better than any other method. Aside from N.

 

[TAW122]

Fortunately, due to the SN, when my dad finds my corpse it should really only sort of look like it's sleeping, aside from the rosy skin and blue fingers, etc. Better than any other method. Aside from N.

Since I am unable to afford or access some of the more peaceful ends such as N, N₂, SN, etc., I'm going out via firearm. I will do my best to minimize others' seeing it and what not, but I can't just avoid all people (too hard to find total seclusion without setting off red flags. I don't live alone and live with others). The best I can do is to do it when there is the least amount of people and the most secluded place that I can find.

I have PTSD from living. I am not going to stay alive to prevent others from having PTSD. Never signed up for that job. You made some really good points but life is traumatic. It's ugly and gruesome wether you CTB, or die from some horrific accident or painful disease. My aunt has PTSD from losing her mother (my grandma) from COPD.

We can't walk on eggshells worrying about if some police officer is going to puke from seeing our dead bodies in a hotel room. Nature is a brutal machine and it's hungry for more blood. But people keep feeding the machine causing more suffering, more loss, and more trauma.

If we had the universal right to die this would be a non-issue. People could drink the Nembutal and die peacefully in a bed surrounded by professionals in a non-shocking and predictable manner. But society objects - therefore will have to continue running into bloated corpses.

With that being said, when I do CTB, I would like it to be as less traumatic as possible for loved ones. But that's sort of hard to do.

Exactly, we would never achieve our goals if we worry about every single person's interests. While we would strive to minimize suffering for others, we can't avoid all suffering given how people react to death/dying.

 

[[NoName]]

T

This is an attempt to get you to consider the potential trauma the sight of your corpse can trigger. There is nothing clean or pleasant about dying, and leaving it up to strangers or loved ones to find you is exceptionally cruel and inconsiderate. It is pretty much the textbook definition of selfish, and I know how you all hate that word on here. If you are engaged in rational suicide you should be controlling the factors surrounding your death, including who finds you. The considerate thing is trying to limit discovery down to frontline services that have to deal with cadavers as part of their job description. Even they can suffer the sights they see, so imagine how much more magnified that is to a potential loved one or a stranger who was just going about their day with no expectation of encountering a corpse in whatever state it manifests.

It is a well-documented fact that exposure to a cadaver can cause post-traumatic stress disorder in people. It can leave people haunted with the sight and smells resurfacing, existing on in nightmares long after the encounter. There are plenty on this site with PTSD, and that hell can be a driver of their own reasons to suicide. So I am sure they would not wish it on anyone else. So don't jeopardise the psyche of others in this way. You have no idea who may potentially find you if you leave it up to chance. You have no idea what their pre-existing associations with death may well be already. The minds of others are potentially fragile. So you have a responsibility to minimise potential harm as much as possible.

Even though hotels have policies surrounding dead guest it is still distressing for the staff to walk in on a contorted body leaking excrement down the side of the bed. Some have quit their jobs over it, too scared to want to open another guest room door because of what may lay on the other side of it.

It is the same for train drivers, some become traumatised from seeing people explode giblets across their windscreen and have to quit as a result.

If your loved ones find you they will be left with that final disturbing image, it will contaminate prior memories and images. It will linger the entire way through any grieving process and never be forgotten decades on. Your suicide is potentially going to cause pain anyway, but you should at least make efforts to minimise the trauma as much as possible. You just don't get the sight of corpses out of your head.

It is far kinder on all concerned to try and die somewhere privately instead of publicly.
You may have given up on life but you still have the choice to be considerate with who you expose your corpse too. If it means you have to set up delayed messages to have the authorities be the ones to find you, you should probably aim to do that. If you can reason out your suicide and its execution I don't see why you can't reason out consideration for others as well.

I wish you peace in whatever form that may take.

This is one of my main concerns. I don't want to traumatize anyone else. That's one of the reasons jumping off a high cliff head first into an ocean is appealing to me. My body is taken care of, and gets recycled into the ocean's ecosystem. Plus, you know, near instant painless death.

 

[TiredHorse]

I was originally going to go over the side of the Bainbridge Island-to-Seattle ferry with weights strapped on. It's 600'+ deep right there, and they'd never find my corpse. I realized the shitstorm of a missing person and the questions in my family's heads would be worse than finding me with my head in a plastic bag.

 

[[NoName]]

T

This is one of my main concerns. I don't want to traumatize anyone else. That's one of the reasons jumping off a high cliff head first into an ocean is appealing to me. My body is taken care of, and gets recycled into the ocean's ecosystem. Plus, you know, near instant painless death.

I'd also leave a note so they knew what happened. I worry about them not having a body to bury though. Funerals are such a part of the healing process, I don't want them to not have what they need to move on.

We have our pet's ashes for christ's sake.

 

[RosieMx]

Honestly, this sums up what happened to me. And why I am here... My boyfriend, best friend of 8 years hung himself & set it up for me to find him via text.

I've come to the forgiveness stage in my grief for the choice he made. But I honestly believe I will never forgive him for the images I will forever have to live with. I am 26 & I have a long time to live, if I don't let the depressions, anxiety and PTSD get the better of me.

I was a successful career women living on her own. I am now a mess, back at my mums & basically on the verge of walking out of my job every day due to the panic attacks of not know what I will find up the stairs of one of the properties I have to visit daily (I am an estate agent).

I am pro choice, not pro life. But please think of the ones you leave behind. The hurt will never leave, but you can spare them the images.

 

[HappilySoaring]

I was originally going to go over the side of the Bainbridge Island-to-Seattle ferry with weights strapped on. It's 600'+ deep right there, and they'd never find my corpse. I realized the shitstorm of a missing person and the questions in my family's heads would be worse than finding me with my head in a plastic bag.

Do you live in the area?? There are many people who go to the Olympics to ctb and very few of them are found. This is what I was thinking of doing for a while. Or Deceptions Pass...

 

[Lavalamp]

Do you live in the area?? There are many people who go to the Olympics to ctb and very few of them are found. This is what I was thinking of doing for a while. Or Deceptions Pass...

How do you know this?

Really not meaning to sound rude(!) I am just curious.

 

[HappilySoaring]

How do you know this?

Really not meaning to sound rude(!) I am just curious.

I'm on the search and rescue team... haha jk

I've been in this area for a while (ex military) and I've seen multiple reports of people (mostly military guys) last being seen or cars being found out there. Some bodies are retrieved but most are still just missing persons reports. The wilderness out here is vast, cold and elusive.

 

[Lavalamp]

I'm on the search and rescue team... haha jk

I've been in this area for a while (ex military) and I've seen multiple reports of people (mostly military guys) last being seen or cars being found out there. Some bodies are retrieved but most are still just missing persons reports. The wilderness out here is vast, cold and elusive.

Thank you. I was curious because there are so many tourists/hikers/campers, etc. there.

Can I PM you when my post count is high enough?