NegevChina

NegevChina

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I think I can make it work. My plan is to inflate a large garbage bag with CO2 from my home soda producing machine. It will be 99.9% pure CO2. I'll keep the opening of the bag closed with rubber bands and tightened with my hand like a balloon. hold my breath, lie on the bed and slide the opening of the bag on my head till the rubber bands are secure around my neck. Take some deep breaths and pass out. I'll also be taking benzos a few hours before.

Only question I have is will I regain consciousness since when I exhale, I exhale 16% oxygen when I'm unconscious.

All other details are tested and work fine.
I tested it and I can slide the bag with some rubber bands on my neck. Its tight enough to prevent a major leak but not to tight to choke me.
The CO2 container is 99.9% pure CO2 and the whole device is portable. Its got 400gr CO2. I can fill the bag like a big balloon.
I can also do it in my car and buckle my seat belt before I put the bag on.

What are your thoughts? Can this work?
 
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I'm not a fan of CO2 asphyxiation. An increased CO2 concentration in the blood causes discomfort. I would prefer helium, nitrogen, or carbon monoxide.
 
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I'm not a fan of CO2 asphyxiation. An increased CO2 concentration in the blood causes discomfort. I would prefer helium, nitrogen, or carbon monoxide.
Sure I would prefer those and an exit bag mechanism but I dont have access to these. I found out that if the concentration of CO2 is above 10% there is no discomfort just quick pass out. From then on unconscious asphyxiation.
 
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I think I can make it work. My plan is to inflate a large garbage bag with CO2 from my home soda producing machine. It will be 99.9% pure CO2. I'll keep the opening of the bag closed with rubber bands and tightened with my hand like a balloon. hold my breath, lie on the bed and slide the opening of the bag on my head till the rubber bands are secure around my neck. Take some deep breaths and pass out. I'll also be taking benzos a few hours before.

Only question I have is will I regain consciousness since when I exhale, I exhale 16% oxygen when I'm unconscious.

All other details are tested and work fine.
I tested it and I can slide the bag with some rubber bands on my neck. Its tight enough to prevent a major leak but not to tight to choke me.
The CO2 container is 99.9% pure CO2 and the whole device is portable. Its got 400gr CO2. I can fill the bag like a big balloon.
I can also do it in my car and buckle my seat belt before I put the bag on.

What are your thoughts? Can this work?
And how will you inflate the bag with the CO2 from your home soda producing machine ? Can you explain ? I suppose it will need something special to put between the bag and the soda producing machine to drive the CO2 directly into the bag and not lose it. On the soda producing machine, is there a point or a hole where comes from the CO2 ?
 
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And how will you inflate the bag with the CO2 from your home soda producing machine ? Can you explain ? I suppose it will need something special to put between the bag and the soda producing machine to drive the CO2 directly into the bag and not lose it. On the soda producing machine, is there a point or a hole where comes from the CO2 ?
It is rather simple. The soda machine has a pipe where the CO2 comes out of when I push a lever. I would normally secure a bottle of water over and press the lever to release gas into the bottle and produce soda. But it also releases the gas if I don't secure the bottle and just press the lever.
So all I need to do is wrap the open end of the bag around the pipe, rubber bands already on the bag before I start.
Reduce the size of it holding it with my hand in this shape:👌(bag is inside the circle of my thumb and finger) and press the lever. The bag inflates and when it is full I remove it from the machine like I would remove a balloon from a pump and secure it tight with my fingers. I put it on my head still sealed with my hand, press it to my head so gas wont leak to much, and then slide it over my head until the rubber bands are around my neck.
 
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babouflo201223

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C'est assez simple. La machine à soda possède un tuyau par lequel le CO2 sort lorsque j'appuie sur un levier. Normalement, je fixe une bouteille d'eau dessus et j'appuie sur le levier pour libérer le gaz dans la bouteille et produire du soda. Mais le gaz se libère également si je ne fixe pas la bouteille et que j'appuie simplement sur le levier.
Il ne me reste donc plus qu'à enrouler l'extrémité ouverte du sac autour du tuyau, les élastiques étant déjà sur le sac avant de commencer.
Réduisez la taille du sac en le tenant avec ma main dans cette forme : 👌(le sac est à l'intérieur du cercle de mon pouce et de mon index) et appuyez sur le levier. Le sac se gonfle et lorsqu'il est plein, je le retire de la machine comme je retirerais un ballon d'une pompe et je le fixe fermement avec mes doigts. Je le mets sur ma tête toujours scellé avec ma main, je le presse contre ma tête pour que le gaz ne fuie pas trop, puis je le fais glisser sur ma tête jusqu'à ce que les élastiques soient autour de mon cou.
It's easy, indeed. Would like to find a soda producing machine like yours.
 
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It's easy, indeed. Would like to find a soda producing machine like yours.
You can find some on Amazon. Search for Soda Streaming Machine
 
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Interesting. I've considered making high concentrations of CO2 with citric acid and baking soda before, and this seems like a similar method. Following.
 
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I think I can make it work. My plan is to inflate a large garbage bag with CO2 from my home soda producing machine. It will be 99.9% pure CO2. I'll keep the opening of the bag closed with rubber bands and tightened with my hand like a balloon. hold my breath, lie on the bed and slide the opening of the bag on my head till the rubber bands are secure around my neck. Take some deep breaths and pass out. I'll also be taking benzos a few hours before.

Only question I have is will I regain consciousness since when I exhale, I exhale 16% oxygen when I'm unconscious.

All other details are tested and work fine.
I tested it and I can slide the bag with some rubber bands on my neck. Its tight enough to prevent a major leak but not to tight to choke me.
The CO2 container is 99.9% pure CO2 and the whole device is portable. Its got 400gr CO2. I can fill the bag like a big balloon.
I can also do it in my car and buckle my seat belt before I put the bag on.

What are your thoughts? Can this work?
Now remains indeed this question about the 16% oxygene you would exhale once unconscious. If there is too much oxygen, the level of CO2 won't be high enough to stay unconscious and it would be a problem to wake up with damages (too short hypoxia to have the effect you search but long enough to cause brain damages). It would be important to have a sure and reliable answer about that, you're right.
You can find some on Amazon. Search for Soda Streaming Machine
Thank you. By the way, just a precision, don't be so confident with benzos, they aren't efficient, even taking many pills. I know that each body has its own reaction with benzos, but for my part they just do nothing, for example taking 10-15 pills. They don't make me unconscious and they even don't make me sleep fast, it takes time. Or I would have to take a very big quantity of pills but in this case the vomiting effect comes very quickly.
 
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Now remains indeed this question about the 16% oxygene you would exhale once unconscious. If there is too much oxygen, the level of CO2 won't be high enough to stay unconscious and it would be a problem to wake up with damages (too short hypoxia to have the effect you search but long enough to cause brain damages). It would be important to have a sure and reliable answer about that, you're right.
I've seen a case of successful attempt:
I just don't know the size of the bag he used.
Its in this thread:
Thank you. By the way, just a precision, don't be so confident with benzos, they aren't efficient, even taking many pills. I know that each body has its own reaction with benzos, but for my part they just do nothing, for example taking 10-15 pills. They don't make me unconscious and they even don't make me sleep fast, it takes time. Or I would have to take a very big quantity of pills but in this case the vomiting effect comes very quickly.
Thanks, they used to influence me quite good but lately not so good. I'm taking 2 pills and it takes a long time to influence me.
 
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Only question I have is will I regain consciousness since when I exhale, I exhale 16% oxygen when I'm unconscious.
>noo you should be good. even 30-40% concentration of CO2 is enough for rapid loss of consciousness, so if you're starting out with pure carbon dioxide, its pretty fool proof.

May take a few practice sessions though. The first few times I couldn't last a second, because of panic reflex.
 
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Only question I have is will I regain consciousness since when I exhale, I exhale 16% oxygen when I'm unconscious.
>noo you should be good. even 30-40% concentration of CO2 is enough for rapid loss of consciousness, so if you're starting out with pure carbon dioxide, its pretty fool proof.

May take a few practice sessions though. The first few times I couldn't last a second, because of panic reflex.
What do you think is a good way to deal with the panic reflex?
 
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What do you think is a good way to deal with the panic reflex?
nothing rlly : (
just gotta man up and do it.... unless u get lucky and the concentration is just enough to knock u out.
Wait actually. I wouldn't do 100% I don't know the risks of breathing pure CO2...try 40 ish percent first
I think I can make it work. My plan is to inflate a large garbage bag with CO2 from my home soda producing machine. It will be 99.9% pure CO2. I'll keep the opening of the bag closed with rubber bands and tightened with my hand like a balloon. hold my breath, lie on the bed and slide the opening of the bag on my head till the rubber bands are secure around my neck. Take some deep breaths and pass out. I'll also be taking benzos a few hours before.

Only question I have is will I regain consciousness since when I exhale, I exhale 16% oxygen when I'm unconscious.

All other details are tested and work fine.
I tested it and I can slide the bag with some rubber bands on my neck. Its tight enough to prevent a major leak but not to tight to choke me.
The CO2 container is 99.9% pure CO2 and the whole device is portable. Its got 400gr CO2. I can fill the bag like a big balloon.
I can also do it in my car and buckle my seat belt before I put the bag on.

What are your thoughts? Can this work?
 
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nothing rlly : (
just gotta man up and do it.... unless u get lucky and the concentration is just enough to knock u out.
Wait actually. I wouldn't do 100% I don't know the risks of breathing pure CO2...try 40 ish percent first
I just read this:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5380556/

"CO2 levels of more than 30% act rapidly leading to loss of consciousness in seconds. This would explain why victims of accidental intoxications often do not act to resolve the situation (open a door, etc.)"

I hope these few seconds are painless.
 
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L'absent

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I just read this:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5380556/

"CO2 levels of more than 30% act rapidly leading to loss of consciousness in seconds. This would explain why victims of accidental intoxications often do not act to resolve the situation (open a door, etc.)"

I hope these few seconds are painless.
Interesting. So with a cylinder feeding an exit bag you should lose consciousness quickly and die within a few minutes from poisoning and not from suffocation. Right?
 
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Interesting. So with a cylinder feeding an exit bag you should lose consciousness quickly and die within a few minutes from poisoning and not from suffocation. Right?
Yes true. The poisoning of the CO2 leads to respiratory arrest after 1 minute of unconsciousness and that will eventually lead to suffocation. But If I had an exit bag and Nitrogen Id rather do that. I think it would be more peaceful. I don't have access to neither so that's why I'm considering the items I have easy access to. I've got plenty of CO2, in fact i bought 2 containers today for my home soda machine. I've got the plastic garbage bag and rubber bands. That's all I need.
 
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Yes true. The poisoning of the CO2 leads to respiratory arrest after 1 minute of unconsciousness and that will eventually lead to suffocation. But If I had an exit bag and Nitrogen Id rather do that. I think it would be more peaceful. I don't have access to neither so that's why I'm considering the items I have easy access to. I've got plenty of CO2, in fact i bought 2 containers today for my home soda machine. I've got the plastic garbage bag and rubber bands. That's all I need.
Do you want to leave before Christmas?
 
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This would give you a feeling of not being able to breath, correct?
I'm not sure. I think its a shock to the body and that's why you lose consciousness. I think its possible you don't feel anything and just black out, but any way its just a few seconds to suffer.
Do you want to leave before Christmas?
I want to leave as soon as possible. I think I found my method. I've already written my notes to my loved ones. Trying to enjoy little things I can.
My main concern now is causing minimum trauma to everyone. Who I want to find me. And finding the right moment to be brave enough.
 
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