MeltingHeart
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- Sep 9, 2019
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At what point at how can it be certainly said that someone has clinical depression vs depression caused by life? (or in other words they are just v.v.v unhappy with life, for whatever reason; the cards they were dealt, treatment from other people, things that have happened to them etc.). I believe that someone could be clinically ok (in their mind or brain) but things that have occurred in their life - either one major event, or just a culmination of factors that have built up over a life- time, e.g. constant & long term money woes, lots of stress, low job satisfaction etc, ) and this makes them understandably v.miserable after a long time spent existing like this- but it is not to my mind 'depression' inititially although I do believe that after a certain amount of time it can almost become a kind of clinical depression- as it becomes simply too long to spend feeling a sense of distess, despair or hopelessness that yr life situation has caused you to feel (and having to constantly fight hard to try and change or improve your life can wear you down and break you) without it changing you- sometimes irrevocable so.
One psychiatist said I had situational depression- that is that it is all my life experiences and things that have happened to me that have made me depressed-in this way it is also treatment resistant- as all the anti-ds can not change the 'facts' of my life and what led me to have a breakdown and now be permanetly sad. I havent smiled or laughed once in a year - does that mean I am clinically depressed? or is this just the result of a life lived with too many woes & stuggles that it eventually broke me, has left me bereft of even small moments of happiness, total lack of hope and severe anhedonia. I dont think I was depressed before- just stresses and anxious (sometimes a little sad) due to many life factors & now I have become like this- it became too much to cope with ultimately.
Sometimes I am suprised when I read accounts of 'clinical depression', that is when the person can not discernibly even say 'why' they feel the way they do- sometimes I have even seen/ read people admit they have a good life & do actually have everything they want & need to be 'happy', good job, family & friends, security etc. but yet they still have a deep internal depression- its feels so strange to hear such as accounts as I KNOW why I am/ have become depressed and all the things that could have prevented it. I am still so surpised and it makes me sad that there does not see to be a real treatment as yet for clinical dep/ bi-polar etc. As is mentioned on here it seems many pills dont work or some people dont have access to all available treatment. I hope one day they can find a good treatment, seems like early intevention is important, as is trying multiple things to find the best one for the individual. Sometimes I think I wish I had 'clinical' depression, so I could seek out and try ALL the treatments. As mine is life depression- I know that no 'treatment' can help me now. (of course like the mental vs physical pain thing- I might say the other way around if I did have the clinical type) I have sadly just 'given up' with life- not out of choice; I feel like my brain, spirit, & soul just broke, caved in one day, and are now irreparable.
thku
One psychiatist said I had situational depression- that is that it is all my life experiences and things that have happened to me that have made me depressed-in this way it is also treatment resistant- as all the anti-ds can not change the 'facts' of my life and what led me to have a breakdown and now be permanetly sad. I havent smiled or laughed once in a year - does that mean I am clinically depressed? or is this just the result of a life lived with too many woes & stuggles that it eventually broke me, has left me bereft of even small moments of happiness, total lack of hope and severe anhedonia. I dont think I was depressed before- just stresses and anxious (sometimes a little sad) due to many life factors & now I have become like this- it became too much to cope with ultimately.
Sometimes I am suprised when I read accounts of 'clinical depression', that is when the person can not discernibly even say 'why' they feel the way they do- sometimes I have even seen/ read people admit they have a good life & do actually have everything they want & need to be 'happy', good job, family & friends, security etc. but yet they still have a deep internal depression- its feels so strange to hear such as accounts as I KNOW why I am/ have become depressed and all the things that could have prevented it. I am still so surpised and it makes me sad that there does not see to be a real treatment as yet for clinical dep/ bi-polar etc. As is mentioned on here it seems many pills dont work or some people dont have access to all available treatment. I hope one day they can find a good treatment, seems like early intevention is important, as is trying multiple things to find the best one for the individual. Sometimes I think I wish I had 'clinical' depression, so I could seek out and try ALL the treatments. As mine is life depression- I know that no 'treatment' can help me now. (of course like the mental vs physical pain thing- I might say the other way around if I did have the clinical type) I have sadly just 'given up' with life- not out of choice; I feel like my brain, spirit, & soul just broke, caved in one day, and are now irreparable.
thku