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[Laststop]

I see a lot of talk about Christians here. I thought I'd share the response to a suicide I got out of one once. I get word my aunt had killed herself when I was living in a different part of the country than the rest of most of my family. I was room-mates with a guy I was friends with for a long time. I've since got him out of my life, and should have many times, for good. I had got off the phone with family who had just told me, and was less than a minute from hanging up the phone when I told him. He got this judgemental look on his face, and said, "huh, I wonder how she'll like burning in hell?" It was one of the times I wanted to beat the shit out of him badly. He's from the Bible Belt, and that's where we were at the time. I asked him why he would say that, and he just threw all that Bible crap at me. Imagine that? A guy that's suppose to be your friend, and should ask if you're OK, and be comforting...but spews that shit out?

 

[JoeFailure]

It's such a dark part of religion, the supposed punishments. I would hope things like that don't really exist but who really knows. I don't think anyone deserves to be "burning in hell".

 

[calendulo]

Interesting comment, but words like judgment, burning in hell sounds as ancient....oldest.
But Bible belt, I never hear that, What is that?, I wonder something like violent, sounds to me a people with weapons.

 

[ALittleBurden]

It's such a disgusting behavior. Many religious people wonder how can a non-believer have any sense of morality without religion, while people like your roommate exist, who can't emphasize and see a tragedy, because of something their holy books say.

 

[Soul]

... people like your roommate exist, who can't empathize and see a tragedy, because of something their holy books say.

The bible doesn't say anything about suicide being particularly wrong.

 

[Lookingforabus]

I asked him why he would say that, and he just threw all that Bible crap at me. Imagine that? A guy that's suppose to be your friend, and should ask if you're OK, and be comforting...but spews that shit out?

Obviously an ignorant jackass who doesn't know his Bible, or understand his Faith's greatest commandment. I know plenty of Christians who would say that disqualifies him from actually being a Christian.

But Bible belt, I never hear that, What is that?

It's an area of the Southern United States known for its high concentration of churches and conservative, judgemental Evangelical Christian denominations. Southern Baptist comes to mind, but if you've ever seen one of those TV evangelists screaming about hellfire and damnation for ... well, basically everyone, that's basically what you find a lot of in the Bible Belt.

 

[Oblivion]

It's such a dark part of religion, the supposed punishments. I would hope things like that don't really exist but who really knows. I don't think anyone deserves to be "burning in hell".

be sure, there is absolutely nothing after death.

Interesting comment, but words like judgment, burning in hell sounds as ancient....oldest.
But Bible belt, I never hear that, What is that?, I wonder something like violent, sounds to me a people with weapons.

Bible belt is the southren states in america where people are very religious

 

[calendulo]

It's an area of the Southern United States known for its high concentration of churches and conservative, judgemental Evangelical Christian denominations. Southern Baptist comes to mind, but if you've ever seen one of those TV evangelists screaming about hellfire and damnation for ... well, basically everyone, that's basically what you find a lot of in the Bible Belt.

Thanks for the explanation, I live in a Catholic country and these churches.....evangelical, baptist.... are unknown for me. I've seen something like that on TV.
Guess that is an advantadge, everyone can has its own church. Christian catholicism is the same to everybody.
I'll try read something about this subject, bible belt sounds to me very interesting....

Thanks again.

be sure, there is absolutely nothing after death.

Bible belt is the southren states in america where people are very religious

Thanks too.

 

[Mbound]

There are very few situations that call for violence, but that guy deserved a hard punch to the groin honestly. I hope he eventually got it from someone. Disgusting.

 

[Laststop]

Interesting comment, but words like judgment, burning in hell sounds as ancient....oldest.
But Bible belt, I never hear that, What is that?, I wonder something like violent, sounds to me a people with weapons.

Here in the US it means people from a geographic area, the South mostly, who have been raised by fiery, admonishing, and strict interpretations of The Bible. I've been there, and hypocrisy is rampant. But it doesn't stop them from being super in your face with it.

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

Religion - the cause of just about every war and evil act on earth. They need to wake up and realise that all religious books and religions were made up by man himself! The universe has been around for billions of years. Far longer than man has existed. Religious books were written by so called "wise" men and passed down like the first laws. Purely put in place to control the population and create some sort of order.
That's my view anyway!

 

[Lookingforabus]

Religion - the cause of just about every war and evil act on earth.

Only if you count Statism as a religion. (For what it's worth, I do.) Governments killed 500 million people in the 20th century alone, far more than traditional religions have in all of human history.

 

[calendulo]

Here in the US it means people from a geographic area, the South mostly, who have been raised by fiery, admonishing, and strict interpretations of The Bible. I've been there, and hypocrisy is rampant. But it doesn't stop them from being super in your face with it.

Yes, I understand that US must to be a country with great contrast, But I did think that religion there was so varied or different.
And then the words....Bible belt, really sounds to me very strong, as a decisive thing a huge hammer falling down from sky............I accept that subject awaking me interest ......I have to read some about......

 

[Asta]

Dear Oblivion, no one can prove that "there is absolutely nothing after death" just as no one can prove to anyone else that there's an afterlife, right? Personally, I would prefer nothing...just sayin'

 

[Cevapcici]

Sounds like he has NPD and was shit testing you

I've since got him out of my life, and should have many times, for good. I had got off the phone with family who had just told me, and was less than a minute from hanging up the phone when I told him. He got this judgemental look on his face, and said, "huh, I wonder how she'll like burning in hell?" It was one of the times I wanted to beat the shit out of him badly. He's from the Bible Belt, and that's where we were at the time. I asked him why he would say that, and he just threw all that Bible crap at me. Imagine that? A guy that's suppose to be your friend, and should ask if you're OK, and be comforting...but spews that shit out?

First off, I'm sorry for your aunt's loss,

Sounds like a typical narcissist who was shit testing you. He used this opportunity to test your boundaries and see how far he could go the next time. Good to hear you went no contact with him, seems like this person lacks basic empathy and communication skills. Churches and other religious structures are usually a good hideout for malignant narcissists and sociopaths to operate in tranquility and prey on vulnerable individuals. Anyone who bashes others , pretexting their moral high ground is a toxic individual to avoid at all cost.

 

[Laststop]

Sounds like he has NPD and was shit testing you


First off, I'm sorry for your aunt's loss,

Sounds like a typical narcissist who was shit testing you. He used this opportunity to test your boundaries and see how far he could go the next time. Good to hear you went no contact with him, seems like this person lacks basic empathy and communication skills. Churches and other religious structures are usually a good hideout for malignant narcissists and sociopaths to operate in tranquility and prey on vulnerable individuals. Anyone who bashes others , pretexting their moral high ground is a toxic individual to avoid at all cost.

@Cevapcici You have no idea how right you are. I could (I will spare everyone the boredom, lol) go on for ages. He's one of the big mistakes of my life. We met early in life, and my social skills being very poor, I let him in and out of my life over and over. Ever know a person you love and hate at the same time? We are both failures at life. He's just manipulative to the VERY few people who stay around him long (all have gone in time, so far) to try and control everything, whereas I am resigned in being alone due to my failures as a human.

 

[ish]

I see a lot of talk about Christians here. I thought I'd share the response to a suicide I got out of one once. I get word my aunt had killed herself when I was living in a different part of the country than the rest of most of my family. I was room-mates with a guy I was friends with for a long time. I've since got him out of my life, and should have many times, for good. I had got off the phone with family who had just told me, and was less than a minute from hanging up the phone when I told him. He got this judgemental look on his face, and said, "huh, I wonder how she'll like burning in hell?" It was one of the times I wanted to beat the shit out of him badly. He's from the Bible Belt, and that's where we were at the time. I asked him why he would say that, and he just threw all that Bible crap at me. Imagine that? A guy that's suppose to be your friend, and should ask if you're OK, and be comforting...but spews that shit out?

In the country where I live in recent years have intensified
suicides by clergy
Catholic. Value Crisis?
Your friend has adopted this attitude towards you,
because he is afraid of death himself.

 

[Pupuce]

Only if you count Statism as a religion. (For what it's worth, I do.) Governments killed 500 million people in the 20th century alone, far more than traditional religions have in all of human history.

Yep, but i'm pretty sure it's related to the growth of human population in the 20th century. When you have several billions to kill instead of a few millions you will eventually kill more. I don't think governments are that much more dangerous than religion. It still remains a problem however.

 

[Xaphous]

People sure like to push that Masonicly edited book of Astrotheology, dark sayings and allegories literally. Christianity has more blood on their hands than fucking so called worse religions. There is truth in there but there is also a bunch of bullshit mixed in. What about people that never heard of Jesus? guess they are going to burn too right? There are writings that predate the Bible by thousands of years which the bible seems to be a mixture of.

 

[Lookingforabus]

Yep, but i'm pretty sure it's related to the growth of human population in the 20th century. When you have several billions to kill instead of a few millions you will eventually kill more. I don't think governments are that much more dangerous than religion. It still remains a problem however.

That's definitely part of it (as is technology and mass production methods that governments started applying to warfare), but if that was the whole picture, the body count for religions would be through the roof in the 20th century as well, and it's not.

When you get right down to it, the Pope can say "all good Christians must crusade to recapture Jerusalem from the Muslim heathens", but it was the nobles and kings who had to send soldiers (and themselves) to actually do it. An imam can call for a jihad against the heretics and heathens, but it's a government that makes that happen (Iran with Hezbollah for the Shiites, Saudi Arabia with too many proxies to list for the Sunnis, plus all the declared wars between Middle Eastern countries and sectarian violence within those countries that's performed by rulers and governments, not by imams and mosques).

Don't get me wrong, religion and any blind-faith belief are dangerous things that lead people to do horrible things, but it's not until government gets involved that the body count gets really high. No religious organization has thousands or millions of heavily armed, trained, professional killers on their full time staff ... but virtually every government does.

 

[Baskol1]

That's definitely part of it (as is technology and mass production methods that governments started applying to warfare), but if that was the whole picture, the body count for religions would be through the roof in the 20th century as well, and it's not.

When you get right down to it, the Pope can say "all good Christians must crusade to recapture Jerusalem from the Muslim heathens", but it was the nobles and kings who had to send soldiers (and themselves) to actually do it. An imam can call for a jihad against the heretics and heathens, but it's a government that makes that happen (Iran with Hezbollah for the Shiites, Saudi Arabia with too many proxies to list for the Sunnis, plus all the declared wars between Middle Eastern countries and sectarian violence within those countries that's performed by rulers and governments, not by imams and mosques).

Don't get me wrong, religion and any blind-faith belief are dangerous things that lead people to do horrible things, but it's not until government gets involved that the body count gets really high. No religious organization has thousands or millions of heavily armed, trained, professional killers on their full time staff ... but virtually every government does.

If humans were angels, a strong government would be good. But they are not.

 

[Lookingforabus]

If humans were angels, a strong government would be good. But they are not.

Exactly. If people are generally good, government is unnecessary, because there's no need to force them to be good, and good people will look out for each other to protect good people from bad ones. If people are generally bad (or neutral), government is an extremely powerful weapon for the bad people to use against everyone else.

 

[Baskol1]

Exactly. If people are generally good, government is unnecessary, because there's no need to force them to be good, and good people will look out for each other to protect good people from bad ones. If people are generally bad (or neutral), government is an extremely powerful weapon for the bad people to use against everyone else.

We would not need government, but if everyone was good, government would even spread more goodness.