Checklists before you go?

[PrincessInWhite]

What else should I consider before I go? So far I have
- written my letters
- made my dad the beneficiary upon death of everything in my bank account
- plan to clear my search histories and cancel my Subscriptions

I don't own any property, i have no children, I live with other people so my pet will be taken care of, and I'm working on cleaning my room.

TIA!

 

[Cant go back]

Passwords for online accounts and stuff?

 

[PrincessInWhite]

Passwords for online accounts and stuff?

I was gonna change the passwords on my computter and phone but I didn't think I'd need to change all my online passwords if nobody knew them previously?

 

[BornBrief]

I was wondering, are there ways people can access these things without your password? Specifically phone and computer. I'm anxious about not wiping it completely

 

[PrincessInWhite]

I was wondering, are there ways people can access these things without your password? Specifically phone and computer. I'm anxious about not wiping it completely

i'm sure there are but for the majority of people I doubt it's an issue. unless someone close to you is tech savvy and really wants dirt on you, if this is the case you might wanna take extra steps. my best friend caught the bus 3 years ago, no issues with that. if you are "online famous" or have a big online following I can imagine it might also be an issue

 

[BornBrief]

i'm sure there are but for the majority of people I doubt it's an issue. unless someone close to you is tech savvy and really wants dirt on you, if this is the case you might wanna take extra steps. my best friend caught the bus 3 years ago, no issues with that. if you are "online famous" or have a big online following I can imagine it might also be an issue

Right... I'm not worried about being hacked per se but I get uncomfortable thinking my family could access my phone afterwards and go through my stuff. Do you know if that's something companies allow once someone has passed? I thought at one point I'd heard they'll help families bypass it if someone's passed away but I'm not sure. Password locks and stuff for phones specifically.
You hear about people posting from social medias of someone who died as well. So I'm not certain how that goes.

 

[LastFlowers]

I was wondering, are there ways people can access these things without your password? Specifically phone and computer. I'm anxious about not wiping it completely

Could get access to your email account via your phone number, if it's attached, they don't even need a passcode for your phone, as it's the number that can reset the password, so if they know or find out your email address, you could be screwed.
I've already begun removing mine from everything.

 

[All Things Must Pass]

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[LastFlowers]

i'm sure there are but for the majority of people I doubt it's an issue. unless someone close to you is tech savvy and really wants dirt on you, if this is the case you might wanna take extra steps. my best friend caught the bus 3 years ago, no issues with that. if you are "online famous" or have a big online following I can imagine it might also be an issue

I'm worried about family or anyone on the outskirts of the family simply having too much time on their hands and unnecessarily digging, I myself have been guilty of that (not to the degree I am worried about tho), the difference is I don't share what I find with anyone, but the nosey bodies around me certainly would.
It enrages me just thinking about it, curiosity might kill the cat but it only feeds the pieces of shit who think they have a right to access a deceased person's private information.
I'm not online famous or involved in anything illegal, but it's very easy to misinterpret what is left behind when there's nobody there to defend themselves or explain it, especially when they never planned on sharing certain things in the first place, even if they remained alive.

If I may ask, do you know if your best friend had their devices searched? Or anything of that nature?

Right... I'm not worried about being hacked per se but I get uncomfortable thinking my family could access my phone afterwards and go through my stuff. Do you know if that's something companies allow once someone has passed? I thought at one point I'd heard they'll help families bypass it if someone's passed away but I'm not sure. Password locks and stuff for phones specifically.
You hear about people posting from social medias of someone who died as well. So I'm not certain how that goes.

What type of phone do you have?
I once thought Apple devices were more difficult to get into but I think someone said on here that it ain't so..I am personally going to wipe all of my stuff and possibly smash it to pieces and trash it.
In the even that the attempt fails, it might be good to have a backup though, you just don't want anyone to be aware of the backup or any breadcrumbs leading to online storage.
As for social media, I have none, not in the typical sense anyway, so I'm not sure about it, but I thought the deceased would have to set up a sort of legacy person to take over, otherwise the page is simply memorialized and inaccessible.
Don't quote me on that though.

 

[PrincessInWhite]

I'm worried about family or anyone on the outskirts of the family simply having too much time on their hands and unnecessarily digging, I myself have been guilty of that (not to the degree I am worried about tho), the difference is I don't share what I find with anyone, but the nosey bodies around me certainly would.
It enrages me just thinking about it, curiosity might kill the cat but it only feeds the pieces of shit who think they have a right to access a deceased person's private information.
I'm not online famous or involved in anything illegal, but it's very easy to misinterpret what is left behind when there's nobody there to defend themselves or explain it, especially when they never planned on sharing certain things in the first place, even if they remained alive.

If I may ask, do you know if your best friend had their devices searched? Or anything of that nature?

What type of phone do you have?
I once thought Apple devices were more difficult to get into but I think someone said on here that it ain't so..I am personally going to wipe all of my stuff and possibly smash it to pieces and trash it.
In the even that the attempt fails, it might be good to have a backup though, you just don't want anyone to be aware of the backup or any breadcrumbs leading to online storage.
As for social media, I have none, not in the typical sense anyway, so I'm not sure about it, but I thought the deceased would have to set up a sort of legacy person to take over, otherwise the page is simply memorialized and inaccessible.
Don't quote me on that though.

Nope my friend had no issues with that! I might be worried if the way you died was through an illegal substance Bc someone might try to sniff out the source to punish them but Hers wasn't and mine won't be either. Apple phones are harder to break into yes but it's still very possible so if you're worried people around you are tech savvy then def wipe! I don't think anyone around me know how to do that, and also I'm clearing my search history but there's really nothing besides this site I need to keep hidden so idc much

 

[theunderdog]

I'm of the opinion that it doesn't matter. If I'm dead I can't care about anything. So I won't hurt. I totally understand why it might be important for some people though. X

 

[return2dreamland]

backing up and resetting your devices? so if you succeed, nobody can look through your stuff, and if you fail (precaution), you can get your stuff back.

 

[PrincessInWhite]

Could get access to your email account via your phone number, if it's attached, they don't even need a passcode for your phone, as it's the number that can reset the password, so if they know or find out your email address, you could be screwed.
I've already begun removing mine from everything.

I have absolutely zero I give a shit about in my email at all but good to know for those who do! They'd just see a whole lotta stupid subscriptions and newsletters lmao. I never use email for sensitive communication

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

making sure my dogs are cared for. that's it.

 

[checkouttime]

Nope my friend had no issues with that! I might be worried if the way you died was through an illegal substance Bc someone might try to sniff out the source to punish them but Hers wasn't and mine won't be either. Apple phones are harder to break into yes but it's still very possible so if you're worried people around you are tech savvy then def wipe! I don't think anyone around me know how to do that, and also I'm clearing my search history but there's really nothing besides this site I need to keep hidden so idc much

Apple stuff can apparently be unlocked now( some company that aren't meant be able to ), there was a massive uproar as police etc wanted to gain access to terrorists phones, but apple said it breached privacy laws and wouldn't do it. the chances of the police using the resources, time and money to do this for a random suicide are remote to none!!!!! If they suspected murder, then thats a possibility i imagine!!

 

[LastFlowers]

Nope my friend had no issues with that! I might be worried if the way you died was through an illegal substance Bc someone might try to sniff out the source to punish them but Hers wasn't and mine won't be either. Apple phones are harder to break into yes but it's still very possible so if you're worried people around you are tech savvy then def wipe! I don't think anyone around me know how to do that, and also I'm clearing my search history but there's really nothing besides this site I need to keep hidden so idc much

That's part of my concern with the SN..

I have absolutely zero I give a shit about in my email at all but good to know for those who do! They'd just see a whole lotta stupid subscriptions and newsletters lmao. I never use email for sensitive communication

Just be cautious with anything else your phone number is attached to as well, besides emails.

 

[SuicidalAgain]

I'm concerned about access to my social media, phone and computer after I'm gone. Will definitely check some of the tips given here.

So far I'm planning a few letters and schedule some emails for some time after CTB.

 

[Largeletters]

I understand why you want to have things organized before you go; I do not want to have a hasty departure. I want there to be planning in mine, and I'm glad things will be taken care of for you. I'm sorry life has led you this way, but I hope you can find peace in whatever method you choose.

 

[BottomlessPit]

I am personally going to wipe all of my stuff and possibly smash it to pieces and trash it.

backing up and resetting your devices? so if you succeed, nobody can look through your stuff, and if you fail (precaution), you can get your stuff back.

I will completely wipe the data from all physical hard drives as well, however it is important to know that simply resetting your devices won't cut it. The data can be easily recovered. I personally will use a software called DBAN to nuke my drives. It not only deletes all data, but also overwrites the previously used spaced with randomized nonsense multiple times, making it impossible to recover anything that was on there before. Even makes smashing the drive superfluous.

Unrelated side note: deleting your browser history will only remove the local data... google saves those in the cloud, you need to delete them there as well.

I might be worried if the way you died was through an illegal substance Bc someone might try to sniff out the source to punish them

This is something I'm worried about as well. Does anyone know if family members can get access to bank accounts? They could go through our purchases and find sources.

 

[a.h]

If person deletes all their data from their phone, tablet or computer and empties trashcan police can still revive everything from the device 2-3 months back.
I would assume that's the first thing they do if they find someone dead with phone etc.

We had former cop here for a while and he said that it's best to destroy the devices or take simcard and battery off and dump them to garbage at least 3 postal codes away from you.

 

[RedPanda]

I would like to travel again, one last time.

 

[Rae82]

I want my daughter to have my phone so she has all the photos and videos that I took of her/us in her 4 years of life with me. I want her to see how proud I am of her and how much I love her.

 

[PrincessInWhite]

That's part of my concern with the SN..

Just be cautious with anything else your phone number is attached to as well, besides emails.

If you're in the US SN is perfectly legal but I know in other places it's not which is very strange to me that the US is the one place it's legal

I want my daughter to have my phone so she has all the photos and videos that I took of her/us in her 4 years of life with me. I want her to see how proud I am of her and how much I love her.

This is how I feel….I really don't feel the need to delete absolutely every trace of myself. The way I'm ctb is legal so I don't need to hide sources, I haven't been involved in illegal activity or the dark net, etc. I just don't want people snooping through my stuff and I think changing passwords and deleting browser history will be sufficient for that. I'm not important enough for the police to want to dig through my stuff, nobody close to me is super tech savvy so beyond opening up my devices and scrolling through I highly doubt anyone will be trying to restore stuff, etc. I WANT my family to still have traces of me. I'm so sorry you're in this position and please know though, no matter how bad of a mother you feel, to your child having you here is still worth everything. Not saying this to guilt you, just to remind you if you choose to stay you're not being selfish. I say this as the child of a mother with severe mental illness and substance abuse who now has severe dementia and I'm her caretaker….she loves me, and that's enough to make me thrilled she's still here.

I will completely wipe the data from all physical hard drives as well, however it is important to know that simply resetting your devices won't cut it. The data can be easily recovered. I personally will use a software called DBAN to nuke my drives. It not only deletes all data, but also overwrites the previously used spaced with randomized nonsense multiple times, making it impossible to recover anything that was on there before. Even makes smashing the drive superfluous.

Unrelated side note: deleting your browser history will only remove the local data... google saves those in the cloud, you need to delete them there as well.


This is something I'm worried about as well. Does anyone know if family members can get access to bank accounts? They could go through our purchases and find sources.

I admire your dedication! I don't have anything I need to hide badly enough to do all that truly, I just don't want it to be super easy to snoop on me when I'm gone. For me, I think clearing my search will be sufficient because I don't anticipate anyone tech savvy enough like LE or anything will be interested in me. If you're ctb with something you sourced online or are just a very private person I can completely understand your reasoning. I've always been more open and I also am of the mindset that once I'm dead most of the stuff won't matter tbh, I won't be here to feel anything about what they find. Also on the off chance I failed and all my devices were totally gone I would absolutely lose my mind even more than I have.

If person deletes all their data from their phone, tablet or computer and empties trashcan police can still revive everything from the device 2-3 months back.
I would assume that's the first thing they do if they find someone dead with phone etc.

We had former cop here for a while and he said that it's best to destroy the devices or take simcard and battery off and dump them to garbage at least 3 postal codes away from you.

I highly doubt the police use the time, money, and resources to do this on every single suicide. If it's clear there was no foul play and you didn't die from an illegal substance they're not likely to bother, at least where I'm from. If you think your family is the type to demand them to open your devices and stuff and start a big stink that might be a reason to pause though. Luckily I don't have anyone who would do that I think

 

[LastFlowers]

I will completely wipe the data from all physical hard drives as well, however it is important to know that simply resetting your devices won't cut it. The data can be easily recovered. I personally will use a software called DBAN to nuke my drives. It not only deletes all data, but also overwrites the previously used spaced with randomized nonsense multiple times, making it impossible to recover anything that was on there before. Even makes smashing the drive superfluous.

Unrelated side note: deleting your browser history will only remove the local data... google saves those in the cloud, you need to delete them there as well.


This is something I'm worried about as well. Does anyone know if family members can get access to bank accounts? They could go through our purchases and find sources.

Is the software difficult to use? Would it be necessary on devices such as Apple iPads and iPhones? Or do you mean for laptops and computers, etc?

If you're in the US SN is perfectly legal but I know in other places it's not which is very strange to me that the US is the one place it's legal

This is how I feel….I really don't feel the need to delete absolutely every trace of myself. The way I'm ctb is legal so I don't need to hide sources, I haven't been involved in illegal activity or the dark net, etc. I just don't want people snooping through my stuff and I think changing passwords and deleting browser history will be sufficient for that. I'm not important enough for the police to want to dig through my stuff, nobody close to me is super tech savvy so beyond opening up my devices and scrolling through I highly doubt anyone will be trying to restore stuff, etc. I WANT my family to still have traces of me. I'm so sorry you're in this position and please know though, no matter how bad of a mother you feel, to your child having you here is still worth everything. Not saying this to guilt you, just to remind you if you choose to stay you're not being selfish. I say this as the child of a mother with severe mental illness and substance abuse who now has severe dementia and I'm her caretaker….she loves me, and that's enough to make me thrilled she's still here.

I admire your dedication! I don't have anything I need to hide badly enough to do all that truly, I just don't want it to be super easy to snoop on me when I'm gone. For me, I think clearing my search will be sufficient because I don't anticipate anyone tech savvy enough like LE or anything will be interested in me. If you're ctb with something you sourced online or are just a very private person I can completely understand your reasoning. I've always been more open and I also am of the mindset that once I'm dead most of the stuff won't matter tbh, I won't be here to feel anything about what they find. Also on the off chance I failed and all my devices were totally gone I would absolutely lose my mind even more than I have.

I highly doubt the police use the time, money, and resources to do this on every single suicide. If it's clear there was no foul play and you didn't die from an illegal substance they're not likely to bother, at least where I'm from. If you think your family is the type to demand them to open your devices and stuff and start a big stink that might be a reason to pause though. Luckily I don't have anyone who would do that I think

Oh yea I didn't mean the illegality of it, but so many families will blame the substance and the method-regardless, and a whole bunch of other shit even when they were told the real, obvious reasons point blank, my family doesn't give a rat's ass about why I actually suffer or even who I am as a human being, yet I have seen them go ape-shit on other nonsense and totally misdirect the narrative, so I would like to avoid the possibility of blame being put on the SN manufacturer or some other bullshit, and them directing their own guilt toward throwing energy into putting puzzle pieces together that aren't even relevant, but would cause my death to be examined in a way that would invade my privacy.
If it were a hanging, that would be somewhat different as most people have the means to hang themselves just strewn about the house, but with SN, it might give them an excuse to dig.
(I fear it may even lead them to this site.)

If person deletes all their data from their phone, tablet or computer and empties trashcan police can still revive everything from the device 2-3 months back.
I would assume that's the first thing they do if they find someone dead with phone etc.

We had former cop here for a while and he said that it's best to destroy the devices or take simcard and battery off and dump them to garbage at least 3 postal codes away from you.

Good to know, I wish more people with knowledge of how police go about this would speak up, I have had others speak with me about the aftermath but I can't seem to remember the specifics, and it's different in every country/case.