Carbon monoxide question

[Silentdeath]

Wouldn't survival instinct kick in and you'd open the car door?

 

[bornsinner]

Wouldn't survival instinct kick in and you'd open the car door?

yes. but u can take pills to sedate u or put u to sleep

 

[Silentdeath]

yes. but u can take pills to sedate u or put u to sleep

So it's not possible without pills?

 

[bornsinner]

So it's not possible without pills?

I don't know. I heard of successful ones not sure if they used pills or not. why not try inert gas exit bag? there's no survival instinct

 

[Silentdeath]

I don't know. I heard of successful ones not sure if they used pills or not. why not try inert gas exit bag? there's no survival instinct

Haven't looked into it much but seems like a lot of material. How is there no survival instinct? Sorry for the dumb questions

 

[HannahB]

Many people say they wake up with a headache, loss of memory, sweating, fast heart rate, rapid breathing and MOST of the time you'll kick open the door if you dont have drugs

 

[bornsinner]

Haven't looked into it much but seems like a lot of material. How is there no survival instinct? Sorry for the dumb questions

your questions are not dumb. u pass out within seconds and die a couple of minutes later.
that's the method I'm doing. using nitrogen gas :)

Haven't looked into it much but seems like a lot of material. How is there no survival instinct? Sorry for the dumb questions

you only need about 4 stuff

 

[Silentdeath]

your questions are not dumb. u pass out within seconds and die a couple of minutes later.
that's the method I'm doing. using nitrogen gas :)

you only need about 4 stuff

Idk, I'm kinda fixated on chemical inhalation right now. Just need to find out product amount for a quick death..

 

[LetMeOut]

Idk, I'm kinda fixated on chemical inhalation right now. Just need to find out product amount for a quick death..

Where is the SI instinct with all these accidental CO deaths? I don't get how they don't notice the symptoms. The CO levels can't be that high if they weren't even trying to cbt, so I doubt they were instantly knocked out

 

[Farmmaa]

Where is the SI instinct with all these accidental CO deaths? I don't get how they don't notice the symptoms. The CO levels can't be that high if they weren't even trying to cbt, so I doubt they were instantly knocked out

If you let the CO levels build enough before entering the bathroom/car/tent, etc, there shouldn't be any 'symptoms'. You should pass out within minutes, or less. The SI that would have to be overcome would be actually being able to get in there.

 

[APharmaDestroyedLife]

Where is the SI instinct with all these accidental CO deaths? I don't get how they don't notice the symptoms. The CO levels can't be that high if they weren't even trying to cbt, so I doubt they were instantly knocked out

I have thought about this a lot... The best I can understand is that survival instinct is more triggered by knowing you're dying or are in danger, rather than exposure to a gas or chemical agent that causes death to a victim of accidental exposure.

No matter what method a person chooses, no matter how "peacefull" or fast. You will have to overcome your survival instinct at least for a few seconds no matter what.

With the accidental exposures, the SI does not trigger because the person just perceives that they are getting the flu, ate something bad, or are having a bad headache.

Sleeping pills won't change that either, because you still have to take them knowing why you are taking then.

Once a person decides to take their own life the survival instinct becomes active and becomes more and more dominant and controlling the longer the persons method takes to prep, and / or be rendered unconscious.

It's a battle with youself. I think this is why a lot of people choose not to go through with it when it comes from methods that require days of prep, or hours of willfull exposure.

I think of it like this:
A friend you know and trust is pointing a fake but real looking gun at you. You know its your friend, you know the gun is fake. You may even laugh or say something silly to them.

Now

Someone you dont know, but wants to hurt you is pointing a real loaded gun at you... that is when SI would kick in.

Even if in reality your friends gun was real and he shot you, and the strangers gun was fake and really just wanted your wallet. Your SI is 100% based on your perception of if you are , or are not in danger.

 

[LetMeOut]

Good analogy, makes sense. As far as SI while taking sleeping pills, that's not a problem. Prob is waking up from the CO gas in discomfort, which I hopefully won't happen w/ enough booze/pills

 

[Lastsauce]

Where is the SI instinct with all these accidental CO deaths? I don't get how they don't notice the symptoms. The CO levels can't be that high if they weren't even trying to cbt, so I doubt they were instantly knocked out

I had an accidental CO poisoning when I was in my late teens and I didn't notice anything. I was at a summer cabin with some family and was asleep when someone closed the fireplace's chimney shutter/damper way too early.
I would have most likely died if my cousin's dog who started having a seizure and making some noise. It did some lasting damage and I started having problems after the CO poisoning which eventually led me to seek site like this.