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throwaway_2620
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- Nov 1, 2018
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For anyone who's interested in the carbon monoxide method, I've researched on 8chan one way to do the carbon monoxide method with charcoal:
You will need a chimney starter, either newspaper or an old fish can upside down with firelighters on top to go underneath the chimney (preferably the can with firelighters since there's less initial smoke and lights better), BBQ matches, quality charcoal briquettes (such as Weber or kingsford), either a small, portable grill or steel bucket (preferably bucket since it's easier to carry because it has a handle), heavy duty multi purpose gloves (to avoid burning yourself while handling the charcoal), a small, sealed space (e.g. small room, tent or car), duct tape to seal the space and either a couple bricks or a steel tray partially filled with water (to catch downward heat).
The method:
Get your equipment and position either newspaper or an upside down fish can with firelighters on top underneath the chimney starter. Get your charcoal and fill the chimney with as much charcoal as you want to use (for reference, Weber briquettes weigh about 50g each, while kingsford ones are about 25g each, so if you're using 1kg you would use 20 Weber or 40 kingsford briquettes respectively), put your gloves on and light the newspaper/firelighters underneath with a BBQ match. Seal your small, sealed space of choice with duct tape (for reference, if you're using a car, seal the vents, windows and doors, except the door you're entering) and have either a couple bricks or a steel tray filled with water readily waiting on the floor of that sealed space. Burn the coals in the chimney for about 40-60 minutes or so (different charcoal brands burn at different rates, so I suggest you do a couple test runs before the real deal so you know how long to burn your brand of choice for) until they're grey, smoldering and not smoking, then tip them into the steel bucket/grill, carry it to the unsealed door of your sealed space, carefully position it on the bricks/steel tray with water (to catch downward heat) and close the door (but don't get in yet unless you've taken benzos and/or alcohol beforehand). Wait 20-30 minutes or so to allow the carbon monoxide to build up, then quickly enter your sealed space, shut the unsealed door and seal it from the inside. If you're taking benzos and/or alcohol beforehand, you can just take them while the coals are burning in the chimney, then enter at the same time as the coals. Otherwise, I suggest you wait 20-30 minutes or so for the CO to build up before entering.
As for the amount of charcoal you'll need for the small sealed space you would be using if you were using charcoal to ctb, here are the basics. A cubic meter of air weighs ~1.2 kg. One kg of coal will ultimately produce ~3x it's weight in in carbon dioxide (this is possible because of the the oxygen.) Coal is mostly carbon, once the carbon is gone.. where has it gone? …the air.
Typically indoors the amount of oxygen in the air is 10-20% of volume or weight. For reference, let's say you're using a 10 cubic meter space.
In 10 cubic meters of air there is approx 1.2 x ~.15 x 10 kg oxygen. = 1.8 kg oxygen / 2 (one carbon two oxygen) = 2.7 kg carbon dioxide. / 3 = .9 kg coal / carbon. When oxygen levels are low instead of producing co2 coal will begin to produce co.
So one kilo of coal would not finish burning in a 10 cubic meter area before it had used up all available oxygen. In other words, 1kg or so of charcoal would be enough for a 10 cubic meter area (as long as it's properly sealed and the method is done properly).
P.S. Sodium Nitrite is still my method of choice, I decided to post this thread for anyone who may be interested in the carbon monoxide method.
You will need a chimney starter, either newspaper or an old fish can upside down with firelighters on top to go underneath the chimney (preferably the can with firelighters since there's less initial smoke and lights better), BBQ matches, quality charcoal briquettes (such as Weber or kingsford), either a small, portable grill or steel bucket (preferably bucket since it's easier to carry because it has a handle), heavy duty multi purpose gloves (to avoid burning yourself while handling the charcoal), a small, sealed space (e.g. small room, tent or car), duct tape to seal the space and either a couple bricks or a steel tray partially filled with water (to catch downward heat).
The method:
Get your equipment and position either newspaper or an upside down fish can with firelighters on top underneath the chimney starter. Get your charcoal and fill the chimney with as much charcoal as you want to use (for reference, Weber briquettes weigh about 50g each, while kingsford ones are about 25g each, so if you're using 1kg you would use 20 Weber or 40 kingsford briquettes respectively), put your gloves on and light the newspaper/firelighters underneath with a BBQ match. Seal your small, sealed space of choice with duct tape (for reference, if you're using a car, seal the vents, windows and doors, except the door you're entering) and have either a couple bricks or a steel tray filled with water readily waiting on the floor of that sealed space. Burn the coals in the chimney for about 40-60 minutes or so (different charcoal brands burn at different rates, so I suggest you do a couple test runs before the real deal so you know how long to burn your brand of choice for) until they're grey, smoldering and not smoking, then tip them into the steel bucket/grill, carry it to the unsealed door of your sealed space, carefully position it on the bricks/steel tray with water (to catch downward heat) and close the door (but don't get in yet unless you've taken benzos and/or alcohol beforehand). Wait 20-30 minutes or so to allow the carbon monoxide to build up, then quickly enter your sealed space, shut the unsealed door and seal it from the inside. If you're taking benzos and/or alcohol beforehand, you can just take them while the coals are burning in the chimney, then enter at the same time as the coals. Otherwise, I suggest you wait 20-30 minutes or so for the CO to build up before entering.
As for the amount of charcoal you'll need for the small sealed space you would be using if you were using charcoal to ctb, here are the basics. A cubic meter of air weighs ~1.2 kg. One kg of coal will ultimately produce ~3x it's weight in in carbon dioxide (this is possible because of the the oxygen.) Coal is mostly carbon, once the carbon is gone.. where has it gone? …the air.
Typically indoors the amount of oxygen in the air is 10-20% of volume or weight. For reference, let's say you're using a 10 cubic meter space.
In 10 cubic meters of air there is approx 1.2 x ~.15 x 10 kg oxygen. = 1.8 kg oxygen / 2 (one carbon two oxygen) = 2.7 kg carbon dioxide. / 3 = .9 kg coal / carbon. When oxygen levels are low instead of producing co2 coal will begin to produce co.
So one kilo of coal would not finish burning in a 10 cubic meter area before it had used up all available oxygen. In other words, 1kg or so of charcoal would be enough for a 10 cubic meter area (as long as it's properly sealed and the method is done properly).
P.S. Sodium Nitrite is still my method of choice, I decided to post this thread for anyone who may be interested in the carbon monoxide method.