carbon monoxide and aluminum foil

[gojidoge]

I've tried doing partial and it's just not working so I guess I will ctb using carbon monoxide with charcoal. The only place I can do it is in my home which I live with my family and I don't want to harm them in anyway. I understand that carbon monoxide can permeate through walls and windows, so would lining my walls and windows with aluminum foil and sealing the doorways with aluminum tape create a sealed room so that the carbon monoxide won't be able to leak out into the house?

 

[gottacheckout]

There is also the issue of one of your family will open your door and that would not be good. Please post a note so this doesn't happen

 

[gojidoge]

There is also the issue of one of your family will open your door and that would not be good. Please post a note so this doesn't happen

thank you for looking out. Door is always locked and they never go into my room if they know I'm there. I will have a window of about 8 hours where no one is home so I will be using 2 chimney starters and setting it up outside the house. Not sure the exact date when I'm going to do this. Just ordered some heavy duty aluminum foil.

 

[tanshakti]

thank you for looking out. Door is always locked and they never go into my room if they know I'm there. I will have a window of about 8 hours where no one is home so I will be using 2 chimney starters and setting it up outside the house. Not sure the exact date when I'm going to do this. Just ordered some heavy duty aluminum foil.

i think this would be too risky with family , the gas can permeate from any vent plus you have to burn charcoal outside and then bring indoors.

 

[gojidoge]

i think this would be too risky with family , the gas can permeate from any vent plus you have to burn charcoal outside and then bring indoors.

What if I cover all the vents, walls, windows, etc. basically anywhere air can have a chance to leak. That's why I'm asking if this is plausible. I will also probably schedule a msg to my sister to tell her and the family about it. Would that make it less risky?

 

[tanshakti]

What if I cover all the vents, walls, windows, etc. basically anywhere air can have a chance to leak. That's why I'm asking if this is plausible. I will also probably schedule a msg to my sister to tell her and the family about it. Would that make it less risky?

I don't know your personal situation, but CO is a lethal gas can do real damage if not done correctly mostly it can harm others-- that why i abandoned it. it needs isolated enclosed area like tent, car or bathroom with no other person in house that is what i learned here form experts Im new here myself.

 

[gojidoge]

I don't know your personal situation, but CO is a lethal gas can do real damage if not done correctly mostly it can harm others-- that why i abandoned it. it needs isolated enclosed area like tent, car or bathroom with no other person in house that is what i learned here form experts Im new here myself.

I understand. I will be alone and no one else will be in the house. :S

 

[tanshakti]

I understand. I will be alone and no one else will be in the house. :S

I highly recommend you go through the following megthared , there is extensive knowledge and resources on this method

Carbon monoxide megathread

Hi, this will be the megathread for the carbon monoxide method. I have some questions about the charcoal method, is it a simple method to do? Like buying charcoal and setting it or there is some steps and setup to follow The ppeh gives low rating for preparation but good rating for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[gojidoge]

I highly recommend you go through the following megthared , there is extensive knowledge and resources on this method

Carbon monoxide megathread

Hi, this will be the megathread for the carbon monoxide method. I have some questions about the charcoal method, is it a simple method to do? Like buying charcoal and setting it or there is some steps and setup to follow The ppeh gives low rating for preparation but good rating for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

I have I'm on page 45 now. There seems to be no one mentioning about sealing an entire room or bathroom for the walls since carbon monoxide can permeate through them. So I wana ask and see if anyone has any knowledge into how to do that to prevent any gas from leaking to the outside

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I understand. I will be alone and no one else will be in the house. :S

But, they're going to come home eventually and be the ones to find you? That's pretty risky for them. Idk about the scheduled message to your sister. How many hours after you start your ctb attempt will you schedule the message for? What will you say in it? Will they follow what you say and not enter the home? People's actions are unpredictable, especially when a loved one is concerned.

 

[secretghost]

you run the real risk of harming or killing other people, which is well outside the scope of personal pro-choice. please don't do this

 

[Redacted24]

It's almost impossible to prevent the gas from escaping the enclosure regardless of precautions.

There are always seams and crevices in house construction, particularly in frame structures. While the concentration will be higher in the sealed room, some will certainly seep out.

Over time this seepage would accumulate in lower areas (typically living spaces are below the sleeping areas) and might present a hazard for the unwary.

Posting warnings on all external entrances might prevent accidential collateral deaths.

Just a thought.

 

[gojidoge]

But, they're going to come home eventually and be the ones to find you? That's pretty risky for them. Idk about the scheduled message to your sister. How many hours after you start your ctb attempt will you schedule the message for? What will you say in it? Will they follow what you say and not enter the home? People's actions are unpredictable, especially when a loved one is concerned.

They always come back around the same time, so that msg will be sent probably an hour before they do so just to be safe

you run the real risk of harming or killing other people, which is well outside the scope of personal pro-choice. please don't do this

This is why I'm asking about sealing the entire room using aluminum foil to prevent it from harming others

It's almost impossible to prevent the gas from escaping the enclosure regardless of precautions.

There are always seams and crevices in house construction, particularly in frame structures. While the concentration will be higher in the sealed room, some will certainly seep out.

Over time this seepage would accumulate in lower areas (typically living spaces are below the sleeping areas) and might present a hazard for the unwary.

Posting warnings on all external entrances might prevent accidential collateral deaths.

Just a thought.

Yeah I understand that's why I'm trying to see if I can use heavy duty aluminum foil + aluminum tape (the ones from 3m for hvac) and seal the entire room. I will be lining all the walls and ceiling with aluminum foil, taping all the seams and corners of the wall etc.

Also, I thought carbon monoxide is lighter that's why carbon monoxide detectors are generally advised to be placed near the ceiling or upper levels of a home/space? Wouldn't the higher level areas have the post concentration even if the gas was to seep out?

Thank you to all the previous replies who are concerned of the risk of this potentially harming others. I really do appreciate it. This is why I created this thread to see if this could work. I will plan carefully as to not harm others in my attempt

 

[secretghost]

They always come back around the same time, so that msg will be sent probably an hour before they do so just to be safe

This is why I'm asking about sealing the entire room using aluminum foil to prevent it from harming others

Yeah I understand that's why I'm trying to see if I can use heavy duty aluminum foil + aluminum tape (the ones from 3m for hvac) and seal the entire room. I will be lining all the walls and ceiling with aluminum foil, taping all the seams and corners of the wall etc.

Also, I thought carbon monoxide is lighter that's why carbon monoxide detectors are generally advised to be placed near the ceiling or upper levels of a home/space? Wouldn't the higher level areas have the post concentration even if the gas was to seep out?

Thank you to all the previous replies who are concerned of the risk of this potentially harming others. I really do appreciate it. This is why I created this thread to see if this could work. I will plan carefully as to not harm others in my attempt

No I understand what you're proposing, point blank, the answer is that will not guarantee you don't kill other people. Messing with gas without training or real equipment, without them knowing for obvious reasons, in the same building where people will be, even if they're not there at that time. I don't mean to be harsh but it's just really reckless and it seems you're not really listening to the warnings being given about why this is so scary. you can't plan around things going wrong or things you just don't know.

 

[gojidoge]

No I understand what you're proposing, point blank, the answer is that will not guarantee you don't kill other people. Messing with gas without training or real equipment, without them knowing for obvious reasons, in the same building where people will be, even if they're not there at that time. I don't mean to be harsh but it's just really reckless and it seems you're not really listening to the warnings being given about why this is so scary. you can't plan around things going wrong or things you just don't know.

Nono I am completely listening and taking in what others are saying. Before I do the actual attempt, I will of course have to set everything up. I will try to post what my room looks like after, before I do anything. I of course do not want to harm anyone whether they are my family or not. Also, wouldn't scheduling the msgs for them to call emergency and warning them of lethal levels of carbon monoxide be okay?

 

[secretghost]

Nono I am completely listening and taking in what others are saying. Before I do the actual attempt, I will of course have to set everything up. I will try to post what my room looks like after, before I do anything. I of course do not want to harm anyone whether they are my family or not. Also, wouldn't scheduling the msgs for them to call emergency and warning them of lethal levels of carbon monoxide be okay

If it all actually goes as you planned and you don't miss some gap of the message doesn't fail to send or someone else doesn't wander into the house early etc etc you're suicidal and it's easy to not recognize the line that's being crossed, in my opinion, between something logical and something illogical/reckless. Again I really don't want you to take this as a personal attack I'm just really increasingly concerned with every response you post on this that people's true concerns aren't landing with you. My main concern is that you cannot plan for surprises or mistakes and it's not just your own life, it's the potential for other people. I won't keep posting on this to bog down the thread, I feel I've really made my point and it's be pointless to keep recursively going nooooo but this is like legitimately so scary to me and this website isn't to enable other people to potentially harm others while we are all in a place of complicated cognitive constriction and depression etc

 

[gojidoge]

If it all actually goes as you planned and you don't miss some gap of the message doesn't fail to send or someone else doesn't wander into the house early etc etc you're suicidal and it's easy to not recognize the line that's being crossed, in my opinion, between something logical and something illogical/reckless. Again I really don't want you to take this as a personal attack I'm just really increasingly concerned with every response you post on this that people's true concerns aren't landing with you. My main concern is that you cannot plan for surprises or mistakes and it's not just your own life, it's the potential for other people. I won't keep posting on this to bog down the thread, I feel I've really made my point and it's be pointless to keep recursively going nooooo but this is like legitimately so scary to me and this website isn't to enable other people to potentially harm others while we are all in a place of complicated cognitive constriction and depression etc

I honestly understand what you're saying and your genuine concerns and not taking this as a personal attack <3

 

[gottacheckout]

While co is slightly lighter than air, 28 to 28.8 molecular weight it is not enough of a difference to immediately rise. Instead it will mix throughly with the air. That is why you can place a co monitor anywhere in a room.