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I am the dumbest person I know. I am very absent-minded and forgetful, and I also frequently say stupid things. I have no social skills or close friends whatsoever.

On top of this, I have also failed many of my classes. People used to ridicule me for how dumb I am. I don't know why I am still alive when I am so worthless. I know for a fact that I have no real value as a psychologist even told so once. I feel so disgusted with myself, and I at the same time I have a lot of resentment because I, someone so very worthless, exists.
 
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paradiselock

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It's a tough thing to struggle with and I feel the same way too. My siblings are all off being successful and I'm here stuck in a field that pays low and actively exploits its workers with little to no way out. The world is certainly not made for people like us and it's hard to navigate but it certainly doesn't mean that we're dumb. There are different kinds of intelligence and we just happen to have the kind that our capitalistic world doesn't appreciate, but it doesn't make us worth any less as people. I'm also very absent-minded and forgetful, and say things at inopportune times (I suspect this is due to untreated/unmoderated ADHD and autism). I know they will probably get better with medication but I'm scared of going through with a diagnosis and the wait times plus costs don't make it easy either. I imagine you might've had similar considerations and struggles too.

Physical factors can also contribute to these kinds of stuff, like if you live in an environment with bad air (like if your room/house is mouldy because you can breathe in the mould and that would affect your brain) or like how some people who have lactose intolerance/are allergic to lactose can have difficulty with their memory if they consume dairy lactose. [edit: I have since found out that non-dairy foods such as processed meats and bread can also have added lactose even when it doesn't say so on the ingredients list, and that people who usually don't experience symptoms of lactose intolerance in their day to day life CAN be lactose intolerant but the only way to tell is to ingest larger amounts of lactose (~50g for adults) and then undergo tests. So your mental and physical health could be affected by lactose even without your knowledge!]

A lot of us don't operate well in this world but that's more because the world doesn't want to accommodate or help us rather than us being useless and stupid, but even so it's a huge struggle and I really feel for you. And don't listen to that psychologist; unfortunately just because someone is one, it doesn't mean they have their clients' best interests at heart or that they're a good person. They sound like someone whose opinions don't mean shit. The way you phrased your worries makes me think that you are a very considerate and emotionally sensitive soul which I think is very important for people to have (I've dealt with way too many emotionally constipated people who blame others for their problems so it's something I appreciate... not saying that I wish for you to blame yourself, because I don't want you to and I think that it's not your fault but I hope you know what I mean. I'm not very good at explaining).

Hang in there!
 
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1up

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It's a tough thing to struggle with and I feel the same way too. My siblings are all off being successful and I'm here stuck in a field that pays low and actively exploits its workers with little to no way out. The world is certainly not made for people like us and it's hard to navigate but it certainly doesn't mean that we're dumb. There are different kinds of intelligence and we just happen to have the kind that our capitalistic world doesn't appreciate, but it doesn't make us worth any less as people. I'm also very absent-minded and forgetful, and say things at inopportune times (I suspect this is due to untreated/unmoderated ADHD and autism). I know they will probably get better with medication but I'm scared of going through with a diagnosis and the wait times plus costs don't make it easy either. I imagine you might've had similar considerations and struggles too.

Physical factors can also contribute to these kinds of stuff, like if you live in an environment with bad air (like if your room/house is mouldy because you can breathe in the mould and that would affect your brain) or like how some people who have lactose intolerance/are allergic to lactose can have difficulty with their memory if they consume dairy.

A lot of us don't operate well in this world but that's more because the world doesn't want to accommodate or help us rather than us being useless and stupid, but even so it's a huge struggle and I really feel for you. And don't listen to that psychologist; unfortunately just because someone is one, it doesn't mean they have their clients' best interests at heart or that they're a good person. They sound like someone whose opinions don't mean shit. The way you phrased your worries makes me think that you are a very considerate and emotionally sensitive soul which I think is very important for people to have (I've dealt with way too many emotionally constipated people who blame others for their problems so it's something I appreciate... not saying that I wish for you to blame yourself, because I don't want you to and I think that it's not your fault but I hope you know what I mean. I'm not very good at explaining).

Hang in there!
This was very kind of you to say! I appreciate you taking the time to respond. This really helped me see things more clearly.
 
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UseItOrLoseIt

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I worked with people who could barely write and heard smart things being said and I've heard the smartest people say the dumbest shit.

Universal rule of thumb: everyone knows something that you don't. Underestimate the quality of your life all you want, but don't underestimate the sheer quantity of days you've been living it.
 
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timf

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There is a difference between intelligence and wisdom. When a person has wisdom but is not very intelligent, they say he has common sense. Sadly it is not that common.

When you consider all of the intelligent, educated, successful people running our country into the ground and trying to tell everyone else what they should do, you might consider that what you have is more valuable than any of them. You have humility.

Many today do not even understand what this is much less see value in it. It is very valuable in preventing the blindness of pride. The world does not need another college educated moron shouting out all the things they do not like. The world is in desperate need of people who have the humility to show kindness and compassion.
 
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TotallyIsolated

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Failing your classes doesn't make you dumb. Absent-mindedness and forgetfulness are not the same as being dumb, and could very well just be symptoms of things like depression, ADHD, etc…

I feel like people have been cruel to you to make you feel this so very deeply. You are not worthless.
 
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I am the dumbest person I know. I am very absent-minded and forgetful, and I also frequently say stupid things. I have no social skills or close friends whatsoever.

On top of this, I have also failed many of my classes. People used to ridicule me for how dumb I am. I don't know why I am still alive when I am so worthless. I know for a fact that I have no real value as a psychologist even told so once. I feel so disgusted with myself, and I at the same time I have a lot of resentment because I, someone so very worthless, exists.
I feel this a lot for myself. But I think half of it is simply not being interested enough in anything so it makes me feel dumber than I am.

What exactly did that psychologist say? They don't get to make that judgement of you.

Everyone has worth. It's going to be an uphill struggle but you need to actively reject such negative assessments of you no matter where they come from. Being bad at something or being awkward is not the equivalent of having zero worth. Look at those around you, are they good at everything? Do they never fuck up? If they fuck up, are they worthless?

A very good way of overcoming social anxiety and poor self image is to stop focusing on you and turning that focus onto others. Instead of thinking, "am I good enough for them", turn it around and think, "are they good enough for me".
 
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whywere

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1st and foremost, you are NOT, NOT stupid ever period.

Why do I say this? Because of the fact, just look/read your post, as you are a VERY thoughtful, kind and heart warming person. I am later in the life cycle and believe me I have made some real doozies in life through the decades. I used to think that I was stupid and YES, a lot of people think, even now, that I am "weird", as I look at life so differently than most do. SO WHAT! it just means that I have, like you do probably, a different scope on life and you know what? that is where so many of the inventions, and good things for life have come from by various people through the centuries.

After reading your post, I 100% came away with a very firm convection that you are truly a loving, and intelligent soul.

BTW, I am 65, for reference point here and like I said earlier boy have I made learning experiences AND even to this day that is why ALL the folks here on SS are my family and friends as I have no other and quite frankly I wish no others but the great people here.

Please have a sun filled up coming week and all my best to you,

Walter
 
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Sush91

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I object. I'm absolutely sure I'm dumber than you. Not that your dumb btw.
 
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First of all, your psychologist seems to be worthless at their job.

Second of all, being forgetful does not equate to being worthless, the failures at your classes can be a result of a lot more than just your cognitive ability, ADHD, a poor work environment, a poor home environment, lack of support etc. And even if you don't have the ability to be succesful in academia that doesn't mean you can't thrive doing something else. Finding what works for you in life isn't easy, every user in this forum can attest to to that, but you're not a worthless person just because you haven't found what works works for you. You're just a person still trying to figure it out.
 
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I worked with people who could barely write and heard smart things being said and I've heard the smartest people say the dumbest shit.

Universal rule of thumb: everyone knows something that you don't. Underestimate the quality of your life all you want, but don't underestimate the sheer quantity of days you've been living it.
Sorry but that hardly suffices, if you've never learnt a thing and spend all those time miserable. This itself is a definition of stupidity. I am steadily approaching three full decades, but I've never had a job, never had a friend, never watched all the hit movies, never held anything remotely interesting as an interest, never went to university, never had a car - the list goes on.

Shocking amount of having lied in bed and did nothing for so long. And when it's down to stupidity - nobody bats an eye on you. Even most people here have a day-to-day life not too much out of the ordinary, so if somebody is that far gone, they are doomed.
 
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Sorry but that hardly suffices, if you've never learnt a thing and spend all those time miserable. This itself is a definition of stupidity. I am steadily approaching three full decades, but I've never had a job, never had a friend, never watched all the hit movies, never held anything remotely interesting as an interest, never went to university, never had a car - the list goes on.

Shocking amount of having lied in bed and did nothing for so long. And when it's down to stupidity - nobody bats an eye on you. Even most people here have a day-to-day life not too much out of the ordinary, so if somebody is that far gone, they are doomed.
I understand. Nothing ever changes and you are stuck in a limbo of perpetual repetition. If you read the same sentence a hundred times over, words will start to melt together and meaning will be lost. You've learned nothing and gained nothing. I understand.
You have led an empty life and have nothing to show for it. Fine. My life may not have been that empty, I excelled at school, but I still feel miserable. By your definition, I'm dumber then you.
Btw, you've written a megapost on the unpopular opinion thread that had a dozen witty and smart opinions. Surprise! You actually know stuff. And you like Fawlty Towers which needs at least some level of sophisticated thinking to appreciate.
It seems to me that you're more dissapointed that stupid, because you haven't been able to use your smarts to achieve something tangible.

Fyi, my definition of stupid is being so narrow-minded that you feel like your opinion is the absolute truth. A smart person will never be afraid to be proven wrong. He will welcome every proof that refutes his theories, because he know that this propagates progress and the discovery of truth. At least, he will never categorically refuse to hear an oppossing opinion, even if it doesn't change his.
 
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fred1

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Sep 23, 2021
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I am the dumbest person I know. I am very absent-minded and forgetful, and I also frequently say stupid things. I have no social skills or close friends whatsoever.

On top of this, I have also failed many of my classes. People used to ridicule me for how dumb I am. I don't know why I am still alive when I am so worthless. I know for a fact that I have no real value as a psychologist even told so once. I feel so disgusted with myself, and I at the same time I have a lot of resentment because I, someone so very worthless, exists.
You truly are NOT worthless! We all well I feel like that also but nobody is worthless, if u need to talk to a stranger u can always message me x
 
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Sush91

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I am the dumbest person I know. I am very absent-minded and forgetful, and I also frequently say stupid things. I have no social skills or close friends whatsoever.

On top of this, I have also failed many of my classes. People used to ridicule me for how dumb I am. I don't know why I am still alive when I am so worthless. I know for a fact that I have no real value as a psychologist even told so once. I feel so disgusted with myself, and I at the same time I have a lot of resentment because I, someone so very worthless, exists.
Are you suicidal?
 
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Angst Filled Fuck Up

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I'm a huge dumbass too. It's a miracle I haven't choked to death on my own saliva yet.
 
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I understand. Nothing ever changes and you are stuck in a limbo of perpetual repetition. If you read the same sentence a hundred times over, words will start to melt together and meaning will be lost. You've learned nothing and gained nothing. I understand.
You have led an empty life and have nothing to show for it. Fine. My life may not have been that empty, I excelled at school, but I still feel miserable. By your definition, I'm dumber then you.
Btw, you've written a megapost on the unpopular opinion thread that had a dozen witty and smart opinions. Surprise! You actually know stuff. And you like Fawlty Towers which needs at least some level of sophisticated thinking to appreciate.
It seems to me that you're more dissapointed that stupid, because you haven't been able to use your smarts to achieve something tangible.

Fyi, my definition of stupid is being so narrow-minded that you feel like your opinion is the absolute truth. A smart person will never be afraid to be proven wrong. He will welcome every proof that refutes his theories, because he know that this propagates progress and the discovery of truth. At least, he will never categorically refuse to hear an oppossing opinion, even if it doesn't change his.
No, by my definition, you are fine, because at my age or even less, you've done better, even if I'm not old. You come from the same region, which says a lot, and you sound a lot more natural at a language we've both had a long time to learn. I don't know or understand any other.

I have listened to the same old songs for years, about 7 or so - and always keep getting no more than 10% of the words no matter which song.

"Money for nothing" - still haven't assembled its lyrics in full, never will. "Electric avenue" - no chance too. Mind you, without lyrics I wouldn't know what Freddie says in "Another one bites the dust". I still don't know if it really is about murder, or breaking up. And why did Peter Gabriel do "Sledgehammer"..

My opinions aren't my own. I heard/read them verbatim.

Most of what I said here and was what I think, sounds very plain and everybody ignores it. My likes to comments ratio shows it. Nothing is an excuse for that in a place where everybody feels awful. Nothing but stupidity. I am worse than anybody on their worst day.

They aren't at all smart, but boring. They aren't even at all unpopular. If what you say is true, I could have written the Bible - you read one post, while ignoring the others, because they are shit. So does the Bible - read one good passage and never hear of the others, because they openly permit murder.

I never replied back, because I didn't get your war joke. I won't, if you explain it simpler, or simpler, or simpler than that. Not in the 5th or 6th time. That screams stupidity. How come everybody here are and sound more consistent and composed, and as you did, have much better jokes you could've easily read anywhere else, but I don't.

"Right, never mind the chetnik chickens" sounds like a good old joke (even if I don't get it). "Pringles is overrated" doesn't.

Sophisticated? You know even from interviews, as awesome people John and Rowan are, as George Carlin is, they are always in for the money and that's fine. Fawlty, Blackadder, Bean - they've always pandered to simple humor everybody can understand - physical comedy. Nothing special, so everybody can understand, even if they are stupid.

I never get their jokes during in person interviews. Neither the talking over each others' voices.

There's nothing to understand about body language and such. My only kind-of real friend has mental retardation and he laughs at Bean in the train.

Yes, your definition can account for a lot of stupidity. But the kind you can fix.

I am not. Listen, you see somebody who finds the only free therapy website - spends YEARS just saying "nobody, nothing" and "as usual" to people, when asked "how are you". It's an awful place (check the reviews) but I really did so, for probably over a thousand people. A handful of the regulars there I've talked to again, years after we first talked - and they said "wait, aren't you so and so years old, from Bulgaria?" They remember me for my stupidity and how boring I am. Out of many.

You see them looking for a deadly euthanasia drug - on the internet, in places like alibaba. People got here like civilised, off reddit when a community was there. I was hoping for an answer in the alt.suicide.holiday GOOGLE GROUP. Waiting for a 20 years inactive group to answer.

You see them not being even able to work out info in a suicide manual. Yes, and I have proof. I have actively wasted a few members' time and they can tell you themselves. I have all but wasted their time over issues not concerning them the slightest. I have done so like I'm replying to you now - long, useless, incoherent because I don't know any better.

What person wants to see if Ayn Rand had nudes? Listen to old music his parents were too young to - daily? Has never seen the two later Godfatherd, The Matrix, The Shawshank Redemption, The Good, bad and ugly, Fight Club, doesn't like Game of Thrones, Narcos, Suits or any other franchise like that?

Who is stupid, while being also obese, ugly, balding, poor, broke, jobless, boring, feeling old, not having a car and has no education either?

Who understands only 1 or 2 books out of the 30 they've attempted to, but never will? Who wonders if the air has pressure, then why does the Earth not explode?

To be serious, I have all the signs of nothing anybody sane wants to be.

Only a stupid, no good, mentally ill and undiagnosed psychopath.

Sorry, but I am not what I look to be.
 
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