Soulless_Angel

Soulless_Angel

existence is futile
Jul 10, 2019
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I have had 2 positive things happen in the past few days, the first for many months. According now to many around me, I should now be snapping out of my *stupid suicidal phase* I should cheer up, forget the past few months and stop being depressed (I have c-ptsd!) as I have much to look forward too
Whilst these two small positives are good it doesn't change the full picture, it doesn't change my past that haunts me to this day, it doesn't change the hell I am going through now, yet when I think of how do I get off this planet, I feel almost stupid, like why should I feel like this I have 2 things to work towards, Like what?
Yes I could use these and try and move forward but I am still stuck, I am still having to fight every day, one of these positives comes with negatives and I have potentially a long fight ahead of me, which could end either amazing or very very badly.
I am just so bloody confused right now , can you just snap out of this so called phase?
 
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LMLN

LMLN

Paragon
Aug 10, 2019
929
No. Anybody saying this has no idea what they are talking about. And obviously have never experienced suicidal depression. If I could snap out if this, I certainly would. I'm miserable like this.
And yes, focusing on things for the future can certainly help. But recovery is a long process. You dont just snap out of it.
Much peace and love to you. I do hope you can find a way forward. ❤❤❤
 
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Flume

Flume

Villain
Oct 28, 2019
300
You "snap out of it" with the love and support from others. If it has gone far enough you can't beat suicidal thoughts alone you just can't.
 
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Jean4

Jean4

Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
Apr 28, 2019
7,557
I have had 2 positive things happen in the past few days, the first for many months. According now to many around me, I should now be snapping out of my *stupid suicidal phase* I should cheer up, forget the past few months and stop being depressed (I have c-ptsd!) as I have much to look forward too
Whilst these two small positives are good it doesn't change the full picture, it doesn't change my past that haunts me to this day, it doesn't change the hell I am going through now, yet when I think of how do I get off this planet, I feel almost stupid, like why should I feel like this I have 2 things to work towards, Like what?
Yes I could use these and try and move forward but I am still stuck, I am still having to fight every day, one of these positives comes with negatives and I have potentially a long fight ahead of me, which could end either amazing or very very badly.
I am just so bloody confused right now , can you just snap out of this so called phase?
I have 9/11 PTSD to the point there were times I couldn't walk from my bedroom to the bathroom. Medical marijuana and psych meds do help.

Do I have suicidal thoughts? 24/7 the voice in my head says I want to die. Depression? Hell yes. But some days are better than others. Am I fragile? Yes. I almost CTB the other day after an incident happened that I would have normally brushed off. Just caught me at a real bad time.

Will the thoughts go away for you and will you snap out of it? No. No more can you snap out of having AIDS.

Realize. Mental illness is a disease. Just like Diabetes or any other medical illness. You wouldn't tell a person with Diabetes to snap out of it.

Realize this will never go away. You can choose to manage your symptoms to the best of your ability or not.

The fact that you recognize good things have happened, is a great sign. There is hope.

Cling to the good things. When the depression sweeps over you... and it will, come here. You don't have to deal with it alone. We understand and will help you through it.
 
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chris8000

chris8000

Experienced
Dec 10, 2019
231
I knew some one close to me who was suicidal for several years and living in a hospital for such people, nearly died, then for them, there was an abrupt change. Afterward that point there were no more suicide attempts to this day, now being many years later. I'm not going into why this change happened and they still get mental health issues, but not the suicidal thing. I don't think it was quite as simple as snapping out of it though.

Clearly getting better takes time and work, but some positive changes can happen quite quickly to turn some one round to go in a different direction.
 
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Jean4

Jean4

Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
Apr 28, 2019
7,557
Did they get drunk before saying this? No there is no snapping out of it.
If there was a way or a magic pill to cure us, there would be no need for this forum.
 
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Manja

Can't wait to die
Nov 27, 2019
182
You "snap out of it" with the love and support from others. If it has gone far enough you can't beat suicidal thoughts alone you just can't.
I kind of get angry when they say things like that, you can get better with love and support of others. If I had love and support from others I wouldn't end up where I am in the first place. So I don't have it and never had...they say it like it's something easy to find, or you can buy it or something.
 
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Jean4

Jean4

Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
Apr 28, 2019
7,557
I kind of get angry when they say things like that, you can get better with love and support of others. If I had love and support from others I wouldn't end up where I am in the first place. So I don't have it and never had...they say it like it's something easy to find, or you can buy it or something.
You have us. We love, support and understand you. You are part of our family of misfit CTBRS
 
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Final Escape

I’ve been here too long
Jul 8, 2018
4,348
Only if your environment changes but otherwise it doesn't seem like sheer will power will help.
 
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Manja

Can't wait to die
Nov 27, 2019
182
You have us. We love, support and understand you. You are part of our family of misfit CTBRS
Yes this here is great but you have to have someone real in your life...I mean to be physically there for you, next to you, and that's not gonna happen for many of us...
 
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Carina

Carina

Angelic
Dec 22, 2019
4,005
There can be so many things that make a person want to ctb. Many small things that on their own would be nothing to the person, but when added to the others, can overwhelm them. As @Jean4 said, there is no magic pill, there can't be. Just being around others where you just don't have to worry about what they will think of you, because they're the same in ways, can be a help.

Even with me, My friends think I should snap out of it because people love me, family thinks I should just seek help when depressed. Psychiatrist just prescribes meds to prevent me from doing things. Yet none of those really help with issues that cause it. And then I ended up here.
 
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Jean4

Jean4

Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
Apr 28, 2019
7,557
Yes this here is great but you have to have someone real in your life...I mean to be physically there for you, next to you, and that's not gonna happen for many of us...
Get a cat. ;). Honestly. I met my partner here. He was in the UK and I am in the USA. We lived on Skype. We lived on PMs and emails. He was better than anybody I could have had physically.

I understand how you want someone physically. I'm 51. Stan was my first and and we weren't physical. But with the divorce rate and abuse in the physical world, it doesn't seem all that it's cracked up to be.

For me...the people on this forum understand me. I can be me and be honest. That is more important than the fake smile you have to put on for the outside world and fake friends.
There can be so many things that make a person want to ctb. Many small things that on their own would be nothing to the person, but when added to the others, can overwhelm them. As @Jean4 said, there is no magic pill, there can't be. Just being around others where you just don't have to worry about what they will think of you, because they're the same in ways, can be a help.

Even with me, My friends think I should snap out of it because people love me, family thinks I should just seek help when depressed. Psychiatrist just prescribes meds to prevent me from doing things. Yet none of those really help with issues that cause it. And then I ended up here.
For me, meds take the edge off and help me function. Cure it? No. There is no cure. You manage the symptoms.

People outside this forum do not understand the Depression and suicidal thoughts and how it feels. I don't blame them. How could they possibly know? They aren't living it. Never mind the stigma of mental illness.

I can empathize with a person who has AIDS. But I cannot honestly know how they feel because I don't have the disease.

No. People outside in the real world won't understand. But we do.
 
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Manja

Can't wait to die
Nov 27, 2019
182
I didn't mean physically like lover, I meant in everyday life, like a real friend or family member, but that's a fairytale for people like us obviously...and for me internet is even more unreal...people are there...and then they are not anymore...
 
Jean4

Jean4

Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
Apr 28, 2019
7,557
I didn't mean physically like lover, I meant in everyday life, like a real friend or family member, but that's a fairytale for people like us obviously...and for me internet is even more unreal...people are there...and then they are not anymore...
51 years old. 0 friends in the outside world. 0 family members. My family and friends are here. Guess what. I can be real with them. I couldn't discuss how I really feel with those on the outside. It would have to be fake. I have to be fake in my real job. I wouldn't want to have to be around family and friends.
 
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Manja

Can't wait to die
Nov 27, 2019
182
You would if they were real friends...
 
Jean4

Jean4

Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
Apr 28, 2019
7,557
You would if they were real friends...
And you see.... I don't know what that is.

I can tell you, from my experience seeing it with others including my partner, you can have a best friend for 40 years. The majority will not understand if you were honest and brought up CTB.
 
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Skyview

Going Blue
Dec 9, 2019
473
If people could place their hand on your head or body ,transfer your pain to them and let them experience what you go through in a day . At times words from others can be comforting but it doesn't take away the pain .
 
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Epsilon0

Enlightened
Dec 28, 2019
1,874
Sure, you can snap out of depression caused by c-ptsd. But first you gotta make a pig fly.
 
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Soulless_Angel

Soulless_Angel

existence is futile
Jul 10, 2019
2,225
thanks for the replies, I do truely wish I could just snap out of it, but every day my mind reminds me the hell I have been through, I am reminded of the emotional abuse I am currently going through, reminded over and over what a shit parent I am, (confirmed by professionals, though I am trying) reminded that I am nothing but a piece of worthless shit.
My mind takes me back to the bridge in Oct, andall I think is I regret not jumping, I was so close too it, nearly went, but didn't due to someoneclose by, I keep telling myself next time nothing will stop me. But then when you get comments like these, it makes me feel stupid, eurgh,this is why I don't like people
 
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Despondent

Despondent

Archangel
Dec 20, 2019
6,777
You don't just "snap out of it". It doesn't work that way. Mental illness doesn't work that way. Thoughts and feelings don't work that way. Don't think about what others are saying about "snapping out of it" ❤ Simple minded people don't understand that some of the things that others are going through, are things that they'll never be able to imagine "putting themselves in our shoes". If this is how things worked, I think this forum wouldn't at all need to exist. We would've all snapped right out of it a long time ago. Positives can come into our lives and it's good because maybe it's something that we needs to boost our spirits. This doesn't mean everything changes in a split second. Take care of yourself and don't worry too much about what others don't understand <3
 
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imagineit

Member
Jan 1, 2020
55
You "snap out of it" with the love and support from others. If it has gone far enough you can't beat suicidal thoughts alone you just can't.

It is a powerful realization. Extraordinary how hard it is for some individuals and it pains me to hear people talk about their loneliness.