Help Bus with hydrogen sulfide

[L'absent]

If you used this PVC truck cover to cover a tent used to commit suicide with hydrogen sulfide, would it work? If the answer is "Yes", what recipe for producing hydrogen sulfide and should I bring it inside the tent? The idea is to not use any bag on your head and die on a comfortable mattress inflated with air inside the tent.

 

[Peter Skellern]

How far did you get with this research wise?

 

[L'absent]

How far did you get with this research wise?

There are methods to produce it in large quantities. Consider that a few years ago in the thermal pools in my region 18 people died instantly from accidental hydrogen sulphide poisoning. At high concentrations you don't notice or even smell its particular smell. Desensitizes our sense of smell.

 

[Peter Skellern]

In the UK its easily bought (with Nitrogen). I wonder if that would do the trick in say a room? Failing that it can be made as you say. Did you pursue the idea any?

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Edit. After looking into this its very low Hydrogen sulfide unfortunately. Its mostly nitogen.

 

[L'absent]

In the UK its easily bought (with Nitrogen). I wonder if that would do the trick in say a room? Failing that it can be made as you say. Did you pursue the idea any?

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Edit. After looking into this its very low Hydrogen sulfide unfortunately. Its mostly nitogen.

I'm working on this with some users: it seems that saturating a car and maintaining a concentration of 1000 ppm of hydrogen sulfide (H₂S) for hours or days requires producing the precise amount of H₂S: To reach 1000 ppm, approximately 50 liters of H₂S are needed. This can be achieved by reacting a calculated amount of iron sulfide (FeS) with hydrochloric acid (HCl). Thus approximately 196 g of FeS reacts with sufficient HCl to produce the required 50 liters of H₂S. You also need an accurate detector. Yes, mixed gas cylinders containing hydrogen sulphide (H₂S) diluted in nitrogen (N₂) have the potential to saturate a car. it all depends on the concentration of H₂S in the mixture

 

[SVEN]

In the UK its easily bought (with Nitrogen). I wonder if that would do the trick in say a room? Failing that it can be made as you say. Did you pursue the idea any?

Nitrogen and Hydrogen Sulphide Cylinders | BOConline UK

BOC has a wide range of speciality gases including 3000ppm Nitrogen and Hydrogen cylinders. Buy your gas online now. BOC Online UK

www.boconline.co.uk

Edit. After looking into this its very low Hydrogen sulfide unfortunately. Its mostly nitogen.

It won't be the ideal you seek in terms of lying down peacefully and just going to sleep. This gas is an extreme irritant and can cause gas burns.

 

[L'absent]

@Intoxicated

 

[Peter Skellern]

View attachment 158235It won't be the ideal you seek in terms of lying down peacefully and just going to sleep. This gas is an extreme irritant and can cause gas burns.

It is low levels in said tank I've subsequently found. How about HIGH levels. It's as easily made as mixing mixing household chemicals (often an acidic toilet bowl cleaner as a proton donor and insecticides or bath salts as a sulfur source)?

It is low levels in said tank I've subsequently found. How about HIGH levels. It's as easily made as mixing mixing household chemicals (often an acidic toilet bowl cleaner as a proton donor and insecticides or bath salts as a sulfur source)? Death will be pretty much instant id imagine?

I'm working on this with some users: it seems that saturating a car and maintaining a concentration of 1000 ppm of hydrogen sulfide (H₂S) for hours or days requires producing the precise amount of H₂S: To reach 1000 ppm, approximately 50 liters of H₂S are needed. This can be achieved by reacting a calculated amount of iron sulfide (FeS) with hydrochloric acid (HCl). Thus approximately 196 g of FeS reacts with sufficient HCl to produce the required 50 liters of H₂S. You also need an accurate detector. Yes, mixed gas cylinders containing hydrogen sulphide (H₂S) diluted in nitrogen (N₂) have the potential to saturate a car. it all depends on the concentration of H₂S in the mixture

In Japan they just mixed household chemicals (often an acidic toilet bowl cleaner as a proton donor and insecticides or bath salts as a sulfur source) to produce toxic concentrations of H2S gas. Why not this?

 

[SVEN]

I'd guess that you would face severe challenges in remaining in the presence of high levels, to be honest. Expect severe burning sensations in eyes and mucous membrames, burning of mouth and trachea, extreme distress.
Most chemical gases you'll produce by experimenting with mixing caustic domestic cleaning substances will, I suspect, not be a way you'd choose to expire. Most especially since (like all of us) you'd ideally seek just to go to sleep and comfortably drift away.

 

[L'absent]

It is low levels in said tank I've subsequently found. How about HIGH levels. It's as easily made as mixing mixing household chemicals (often an acidic toilet bowl cleaner as a proton donor and insecticides or bath salts as a sulfur source)?


In Japan they just mixed household chemicals (often an acidic toilet bowl cleaner as a proton donor and insecticides or bath salts as a sulfur source) to produce toxic concentrations of H2S gas. Why not this?

Yes, you can do that too. The procedure is very simple, it's suicide by teenagers with homemade products.

 

[Peter Skellern]

Yes, you can do that too. The procedure is very simple, it's suicide by teenagers with homemade products.

Yes. That being the case why doesn't it have more popularity (for want of a better word) on here? It seems pretty instant and painless not to say very certain. Why are people looking at more complicated and contrieved methods involving lots of stuff bought overseas or wherever? I hardly see it mentioned.

I'd guess that you would face severe challenges in remaining in the presence of high levels, to be honest. Expect severe burning sensations in eyes and mucous membrames, burning of mouth and trachea, extreme distress.
Most chemical gases you'll produce by experimenting with mixing caustic domestic cleaning substances will, I suspect, not be a way you'd choose to expire. Most especially since (like all of us) you'd ideally seek just to go to sleep and comfortably drift away.

But in high does death is pretty instant and negates all that doesnt it? And yes what you mention is my ideal but obtaining the necessaries for that is harder than you'd think - well you wouldn't but to the newbie.

 

[L'absent]

Yes. That being the case why doesn't it have more popularity (for want of a better word) on here? It seems pretty instant and painless not to say very certain. Why are people looking at more complicated and contrieved methods involving lots of stuff bought overseas or wherever? I hardly see it mentioned.

Why isn't it popular? Do you ever read the speeches?


Because in the forum there is a sort of ethics on the part of some users who attack those who talk about these methods, it is not important that they are effective. This is a method that can potentially cause damage to third parties (very rare cases) and therefore it is almost impossible to talk about it here. Consequently, even those who can help in the method decide not to intervene. As happens with LPG (that is also very simple). The collision with the train, the hatred towards firearms etc etc... Only SN is accepted here.

 

[Peter Skellern]

Why isn't it popular? Do you ever read the speeches?


Because in the forum there is a sort of ethics on the part of some users who attack those who talk about these methods, it is not important that they are effective. This is a method that can potentially cause damage to third parties (very rare cases) and therefore it is almost impossible to talk about it here. Consequently, even those who can help in the method decide not to intervene. As happens with LPG (that is also very simple). The collision with the train, the hatred towards firearms etc etc... Only SN is accepted here.

I have noticed albeit I've been on here less than 24hrs. It seens a very effective simple method. Notwithstanding that, LPG may be even easier. I'll do a search on here.

 

[Whale_bones]

Why isn't it popular? Do you ever read the speeches?


Because in the forum there is a sort of ethics on the part of some users who attack those who talk about these methods, it is not important that they are effective. This is a method that can potentially cause damage to third parties (very rare cases) and therefore it is almost impossible to talk about it here. Consequently, even those who can help in the method decide not to intervene. As happens with LPG (that is also very simple). The collision with the train, the hatred towards firearms etc etc... Only SN is accepted here.

Everyone has the full right to decide what method is correct for themselves. If someone opens a thread directly asking for others' thoughts, saying "will this be effective??" etc. of course they're going to get replies with people discussing likely efficacy, because that's literally what they're asking for.

If someone simply says that a firearm is their chosen method, I don't see some phenomenon of people making "speeches" showing "hatred towards firearms". Though you could probably pass for an American with that kind of claim There's a 47-page megathread that's solely discussing this topic; rarely do I see "hatred" in the form of so much open discussion.

 

[Peter Skellern]

I can't see much on here re LPG as a method. I'm presuming its in a car or room?

 

[L'absent]

Everyone has the full right to decide what method is correct for themselves. If someone opens a thread directly asking for others' thoughts, saying "will this be effective??" etc. of course they're going to get replies with people discussing likely efficacy, because that's literally what they're asking for.

If someone simply says that a firearm is their chosen method, I don't see some phenomenon of people making "speeches" showing "hatred towards firearms". Though you could probably pass for an American with that kind of claim There's a 47-page megathread that's solely discussing this topic; rarely do I see "hatred" in the form of so much open discussion.

It's not like that. Systematically the threads of weapons, hydrogen sulphide (there isn't even a dedicated thread because none could arise), jumping, train etc: they are all attacked and usually it starts by terrifying those who choose that method. So much so that the mega weapons thread is inactive, and another thread has also been opened in this regard to underline it. Totally different when a thread opens on SN (now only those exist), that poison is defended with all its might and it's hard to challenge it. Even today there is a thread defending that method which has a few hundred people a year and the propaganda on its safety is fundamentally based on anonymous testimonies and scientific documentation that is ridiculous in comparison to firearms, hanging, CO, train etc... Furthermore, an enormous amount of statistical documentation on train suicide can be produced and it is snubbed and belittled in 5 seconds, causing the thread on the train to collapse. And instead we have to believe the dubious documentation of a method like SN? Which is a suffocation with possible disastrous involvement of every organ of the body.

I can't see much on here re LPG as a method. I'm presuming its in a car or room?

It was never possible to discuss it peacefully. This is why there is very little and those who can give indications abstain so as not to stir up controversy.

 

[Peter Skellern]

It's not like that. Systematically the threads of weapons, hydrogen sulphide (there isn't even a dedicated thread because none could arise), jumping, train etc: they are all attacked and usually it starts by terrifying those who choose that method. So much so that the mega weapons thread is inactive, and another thread has also been opened in this regard to underline it. Totally different when a thread opens on SN (now only those exist), that poison is defended with all its might and it's hard to challenge it. Even today there is a thread defending that method which has a few hundred people a year and the propaganda on its safety is fundamentally based on anonymous testimonies and scientific documentation that is ridiculous in comparison to firearms, hanging, CO, train etc... Furthermore, an enormous amount of statistical documentation on train suicide can be produced and it is snubbed and belittled in 5 seconds, causing the thread on the train to collapse. And instead we have to believe the dubious documentation of a method like SN? Which is a suffocation with possible disastrous involvement of every organ of the body.

It was never possible to discuss it peacefully. This is why there is very little and those who can give indications abstain so as not to stir up controversy.

I'm suprised there isn't a deficated thread on Hydrogen Sulphide. Save me reinventing the wheel which I feel I am.

 

[L'absent]

I can't see much on here re LPG as a method. I'm presuming its in a car or room?

Do you read the terrorism towards the hydrogen sulfide method here in this thread? Yet at high concentrations death is practically instantaneous. At high concentrations you don't smell rotten eggs and you don't have time to realize your eyes are burning. I'll end here, let's talk about SN.

If you search around you will even find someone claiming that butane gas is corrosive.

 

[Whale_bones]

It's not like that. Systematically the threads of weapons, hydrogen sulphide (there isn't even a dedicated thread because none could arise), jumping, train etc: they are all attacked and usually it starts by terrifying those who choose that method. So much so that the mega weapons thread is inactive, and another thread has also been opened in this regard to underline it. Totally different when a thread opens on SN (now only those exist), that poison is defended with all its might and it's hard to challenge it. Even today there is a thread defending that method which has a few hundred people a year and the propaganda on its safety is fundamentally based on anonymous testimonies and scientific documentation that is ridiculous in comparison to firearms, hanging, CO, train etc... Furthermore, an enormous amount of statistical documentation on train suicide can be produced and it is snubbed and belittled in 5 seconds, causing the thread on the train to collapse. And instead we have to believe the dubious documentation of a method like SN? Which is a suffocation with possible disastrous involvement of every organ of the body.

Since I'm not sure this came across, the reason I put a "wink" emoji was because I was making a lighthearted joke about how some Americans are very pro-firearm (and I'm American, so it was a little wisecrack about my own country). Not because I was joking about... a method and the destructive impacts it has on a body? I'm not sure what your wink means in this context, lol.

Your personal views are ones that are very against SN, you consider the evidence to be lacking and even, in your words "propaganda" and "ridiculous". The method is clearly not one that you consider right for yourself, and that's fine. I would never have an interest in trying to convince you to use SN (or any other method for that matter) for yourself.

Other people have very thoughtfully and carefully evaluated the evidence on the SN method and consider it the best method for their own body, strengths and limitations, health problems or lack thereof, resources and personal convictions.

Your claim that only threads on SN exist is just demonstrably false, the Suicide Discussion subforum is full of threads discussing various methods. We're in one right now, I linked a 47-page one, and those are both things that come to mind in seconds, if I used the search function I'd find so many more that one person can't possibly read them all.

Do you read the terrorism towards the hydrogen sulfide method here in this thread? Yet at high concentrations death is practically instantaneous. At high concentrations you don't smell rotten eggs and you don't have time to realize your eyes are burning. I'll end here, let's talk about SN.

Did... did you just call my comment "terrorism"... okay, I was in the middle of writing my response but I'm gonna stop taking this discussion as anything near serious now

 

[Peter Skellern]

Do you read the terrorism towards the hydrogen sulfide method here in this thread? Yet at high concentrations death is practically instantaneous. At high concentrations you don't smell rotten eggs and you don't have time to realize your eyes are burning. I'll end here, let's talk about SN.

If you search around you will even find someone claiming that butane gas is corrosive.

Hydrogen suphide does seem a relatively simple method. I'm sure with a bit of digging I could identify the Detergent etc needed. I'd prefer 'pills in bed' but this is certainly an option. Im presuming the concern re harming others?

 

[L'absent]

I'm suprised there isn't a deficated thread on Hydrogen Sulphide. Save me reinventing the wheel which I feel I am.

It's not even on the trains. They decide how you should commit suicide! And then the other user above writes "everyone is free to choose their own method". No, this is not the case and the attitude of some users is identical to pro-lifers.

 

[Peter Skellern]

It's not even on the trains. They decide how you should commit suicide! And then the other user above writes "everyone is free to choose their own method". No, this is not the case and the attitude of some users is identical to pro-lifers.

I wish there wasn't 'politics' on here re such issues. Makes it 1000 x more difficult.

 

[Whale_bones]

I'm suprised there isn't a deficated thread on Hydrogen Sulphide. Save me reinventing the wheel which I feel I am.

Here's a few threads 1 2 3 4 5 that I found in seconds using the search function and the term "LPG". I'm not researching this method and thus have no inclination to spend time collating threads on it, this is just an example for anyone reading this thread that previous users have often already put a lot of thought into a method and taken the time to write posts on it.

Some of which may be very applicable to your situation, some of which may not be, but I often find incorporating the shared knowledge of previous users to be helpful in my own research.

I wish there wasn't 'politics' on here re such issues.

There's really, really not. Your account was made 2 days ago. Instead of taking the word of a single user, who claims terrorism and propaganda when someone civilly responds to their comments, I'd recommended spending some time on the forum, using the search function and doing your own research.

 

[Peter Skellern]

Here's a few threads 1 2 3 4 5 that I found in seconds using the search function and the term "LPG". I'm not researching this method and thus have no inclination to spend time collating threads on it, this is just an example for anyone reading this thread that previous users have often already put a lot of thought into a method and taken the time to write posts on it.

Some of which may be very applicable to your situation, some of which may not be, but I often find incorporating the shared knowledge of previous users to be helpful in my own research.



There's really, really not. Your account was made 2 days ago. Instead of taking the word of a single user, who claims terrorism and propaganda when someone civilly responds to their comments, I'd recommended spending some time on the forum, using the search function and doing your own research.

Thank you. I did use the search but (genuinely) at the time couldn't find much.

 

[Whale_bones]

Thank you. I did use the search but (genuinely) at the time couldn't find much.

I believe the search function is very limited for new users; I don't know the specifics, but you have to either be here for a certain length of time or have a certain number of posts (both of which are fairly low, IIRC) to have the full functionality of the search function open to you. I totally get how that can be frustrating to someone trying to do research!

I think you can go in the off-topic forum if you want to get your post count up quickly (there's games and lighthearted subjects there). Someone please chime in with the specifics if I'm not remembering this correctly, I'm an old user by this forum's standards so it's been a while for me

 

[L'absent]

Ecco alcuni thread 1 2 3 4 5 che ho trovato in pochi secondi usando la funzione di ricerca e il termine "LPG". Non sto facendo ricerche su questo metodo e quindi non ho alcuna inclinazione a perdere tempo a raccogliere thread su di esso, questo è solo un esempio per chiunque legga questo thread che gli utenti precedenti hanno spesso già dedicato molto tempo a riflettere su un metodo e si sono presi il tempo di scrivere post su di esso.

Alcune di queste informazioni potrebbero essere molto utili alla tua situazione, altre no, ma spesso trovo utile integrare le conoscenze condivise dagli utenti precedenti nella mia ricerca.



Non c'è davvero, davvero. Il tuo account è stato creato 2 giorni fa. Invece di prendere per buona la parola di un singolo utente, che afferma di essere terrorismo e propaganda quando qualcuno risponde civilmente ai suoi commenti, ti consiglierei di passare un po' di tempo sul forum, usando la funzione di ricerca e facendo le tue ricerche.

Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta
There are no mega threads on LPG, hydrogen sulfide, trains, jumping etc... You can check this for yourself. Furthermore, the threads you reported do not all deal with GPL and it is barely mentioned in the others. Shall we take a look at SN? In the same thread you reported, there is terrorism against the method. And terrorism is not a bad word. It simply means that the intent is to terrify the user who chooses that method. Why can he only do that? Why does he like it? Why is it fast? Others shouldn't care. Of course there is politics, fortunately on a small side, but it makes itself felt everywhere in the threads. When desperate users who choose the train due to lack of alternatives are attacked, making them feel guilty of traumatizing the world. This is politics! Blaming those who suffer: when social judgment becomes a political instrument.

 

[Peter Skellern]

I believe the search function is very limited for new users; I don't know the specifics, but you have to either be here for a certain length of time or have a certain number of posts (both of which are fairly low, IIRC) to have the full functionality of the search function open to you. I totally get how that can be frustrating to someone trying to do research!

I think you can go in the off-topic forum if you want to get your post count up quickly (there's games and lighthearted subjects there). Someone please chime in with the specifics if I'm not remembering this correctly, I'm an old user by this forum's standards so it's been a while for me

I have read that. What I seem to be doing at present is 'reinventing the wheel' which is frustrating. What I thought would be a relatively easy task is proving difficult. In brief, I've propsed 1. Tramadol and booze - which I'm told is unlikely to succeed 2. BP meds - which got no response 3. Opiates and synthetics - I'm old and they are difficult to obtain (I'd love to as this is my preferred and I thought Id be able to get them online) 4. Inhaling whatever through a medical mask with bag attached - told it would be unpleasant but I'm Claustrophobic re hoods 5. Hydrogen Sulphide - not really much on here re that. Its all proving difficult.

 

[SVEN]

I wish there wasn't 'politics' on here re such issues. Makes it 1000 x more difficult.

There really aren't "politics" on methods that I've noticed. If someone enquires about ctb by Train or Locomotive the concerns mentioned are usually around the consequent trauma caused to the rail staff and the people who'll have to go down the track picking up the pieces.
Cautions as to the success of the method centre around the likelihood of SI intervening in the final seconds, or metal or coachwork causing injury, loss of limbs etc resulting in maiming but not death.
Only comments I've seen re firearms are cautions re discharging the weapon beneath the chin, bringing the danger of blowing off part of the face rather than through the mouth into the brain stem.

 

[L'absent]

There really aren't "politics" on methods that I've noticed. If someone enquires about ctb by Train or Locomotive the concerns mentioned are usually around the consequent trauma caused to the rail staff and the people who'll have to go down the track picking up the pieces.
Cautions as to the success of the method centre around the likelihood of SI intervening in the final seconds, or metal or coachwork causing injury, loss of limbs etc resulting in maiming but not death.
Only comments I've seen re firearms are cautions re discharging the weapon beneath the chin, bringing the danger of blowing off part of the face rather than through the mouth into the brain stem.

So can we open the mega threads for Trains, hydrogen sulphide, Jumping from heights, etc etc?

Did you know that you don't need to have many posts to read them even for new users? It's all ok then.

 

[SVEN]

I've no idea how many posts are required to access threads, which is why I haven't made any comment about this.
As far as I'm concerned members are welcome to open as many threads as may be desired about any methods. In fact, the way this thread is developing it may yet become such a mega thread.