Burning a Quran in an Islamic country guaranteed death?

[Kay_Philosopher]

For example, in Pakistan, if one burns the Quran or desecrates it in public, then is it guaranteed death? Basically, a suicide by cop situation but having a hanker for execution in a controlled environment that isn't reckless. Do Islamic governments such as Pakistan do this to foreigners who aren't from there but obviously commit an infraction against the law such as desecration of their Quran to warrant the death penalty? It would be difficult to argue against it given that it is done in public before many witnesses, no?

 

[BobSmoked]

One would imagine so although I'm no legal expert but my understanding is they've a zero tolerance approach but i wouldn't risk it less you end up in the general prison population you know like 20 to a cell just a small grate as a window a fate truly worse than death i say that somewhat tongue in cheek.

 

[BlackEyedDog]

You can probably search the laws online. I don't know why anyone would want to attempt to ctb by way of a foreign government. Too many variables, maybe you will be incarcerated for a lengthy time instead. This is like suicide by cop on a ridiculous scale.

 

[BobSmoked]

You can probably search the laws online. I don't know why anyone would want to attempt to ctb by way of a foreign government. Too many variables, maybe you will be incarcerated for a lengthy time instead. This is like suicide by cop on a ridiculous scale.

I've a suspicion it's more hypothetical but you have summarised quite well what is hopefully fairly obvious.

 

[Ash]

Deliberately insulting a religion in order to maybe get yourself killed seems incredibly crass and, well, I'm not even sure I've got the words to describe it, and I'm an atheist. Surely there's got to be a way for you to end your life where you don't spit on the beliefs of millions of people on your way out?

 

[sugarb]

Deliberately insulting a religion in order to maybe get yourself killed seems incredibly crass and, well, I'm not even sure I've got the words to describe it, and I'm an atheist. Surely there's got to be a way for you to end your life where you don't spit on the beliefs of millions of people on your way out?

To be fair, suicide is also spitting on the beliefs of millions (billions more like)

For example, in Pakistan, if one burns the Quran or desecrates it in public, then is it guaranteed death? Basically, a suicide by cop situation but having a hanker for execution in a controlled environment that isn't reckless. Do Islamic governments such as Pakistan do this to foreigners who aren't from there but obviously commit an infraction against the law such as desecration of their Quran to warrant the death penalty? It would be difficult to argue against it given that it is done in public before many witnesses, no?

You might just be beaten to death by an angry mob, which would be extremely unpleasant to say the least. I don't think it'd be a good idea, much too risky

 

[Ash]

To be fair, suicide is also spitting on the beliefs of millions (billions more like)

Touché! Very good point lol

 

[BobSmoked]

To be fair, suicide is also spitting on the beliefs of millions (billions more like)

You might just be beaten to death by an angry mob, which would be extremely unpleasant to say the least. I don't think it'd be a good idea, much too risky

I've a sneaking suspicion it would be the last option and very sound advice to best not.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Probably slow and painful to die this way ....

 

[failure383]

The problem here is, that you can't be sure how exactly you die. Will you be stoned to death? Will you be tortured to death? Will you be executed with a gun? Will you be thrown off a building? I don't know, but I wouldn't risk all those horrific deaths just for the little chance of a pleasant. I say little chance, because I'm pretty sure they won't let you go peacefully if you do something like this on purpose.

 

[Death is my goal]

this is one of the dumbest posts I've seen
use one braincell and you would find out that it's a horrible idea, if you have one.

 

[FallingGrace]

This forum never fails to impress me with the dumb as fuck and nonsensical ways to die that it comes up with. If you've got plane ticket and passport money, surely you have the resources to put something more realistic together?

 

[BlackEyedDog]

What's curious is this poster has made similar threads revolving around death by martyrdom before. I'm assuming they believe god will overlook the fact that they chose to martyr themselves in their god's name in order to commit suicide.

 

[FallingGrace]

You could suicide by cop in most western countries pretty easily. Why the fuck do you want to try and demonise a religion further by purposely aggravating a dictatorial state on your way out? Why do you want your death to condemn a likely unconsenting and otherwise peaceful people who would have little to no part in your punishment?

 

[Guy089001]

This forum never fails to impress me with the dumb as fuck and nonsensical ways to die that it comes up with. If you've got plane ticket and passport money, surely you have the resources to put something more realistic together?

It's called desperation.

 

[FallingGrace]

It's called desperation.

It's called idiocy and bigotry. Desperation is a rope tied to the back of the door, or a pack of pills taken with a handle of liquor.

 

[Death is my goal]

It's called desperation.

you're delusional

 

[CantDoIt]

It feels like a troll post

 

[JaegerCA]

fly to saudi arabia and try to bring a pig into the Kaaba lol

 

[sugarb]

I've a sneaking suspicion it would be the last option and very sound advice to best not.

Yea. And as someone else said with enough money for a plane ticket why not do something else

 

[Guy089001]

It's called idiocy and bigotry. Desperation is a rope tied to the back of the door, or a pack of pills taken with a handle of liquor.

you're delusional

Two examples of projection in 3 minutes, not that I'm here to shit on anyone but seriously take it somewhere else. This person is in a place they're considering the most efficient way to be eliminated from the earth - irrational is not equivalent to "idiocy and bigotry" for god's sake. I'm not sure what aspect of that isn't actually registering in your psychology and why you expect your personal profile's level of methodical planning coming from someone demonstratively desperate to the point of wanting to be murdered by religious devotees for things to end. There are different perspectives to be had around suicide and our choices for it. Mental illness induced by just being pushed to an absolute breaking point has a notable track record of making people side with heavily irrational, immoral and widely dangerous decisions. Not that it matters but do you just as angrily beat down on people choosing suicide by cop, for the same reasons?

Wait a minute - am I seriously about to debate on a fucking suicide forum? I'm out. Believe what you want, I'm good, doesn't effect me.

 

[sugarb]

It's called desperation.

It's also silly :p

Two examples of projection in 3 minutes, not that I'm here to shit on anyone but seriously take it somewhere else. This person is in a place they're considering the most efficient way to be eliminated from the earth - irrational is not equivalent to "idiocy and bigotry" for god's sake. I'm not sure what aspect of that isn't actually registering in your psychology and why you expect your personal profile's level of methodical planning coming from someone demonstratively desperate to the point of wanting to be murdered by religious devotees for things to end. There are different perspectives to be had around suicide and our choices for it. Do you just as angrily beat down on people choosing suicide by cop, for the same reasons?

Fair, one could posture CTB by cop as being anti-copaganda or something lol

fly to saudi arabia and try to bring a pig into the Kaaba lol

Imagine that on the news

The problem here is, that you can't be sure how exactly you die. Will you be stoned to death? Will you be tortured to death? Will you be executed with a gun? Will you be thrown off a building? I don't know, but I wouldn't risk all those horrific deaths just for the little chance of a pleasant. I say little chance, because I'm pretty sure they won't let you go peacefully if you do something like this on purpose.

Eughh yeah stoning would be very bad

 

[BobSmoked]

You could suicide by cop in most western countries pretty easily. Why the fuck do you want to try and demonise a religion further by purposely aggravating a dictatorial state on your way out? Why do you want your death to condemn a likely unconsenting and otherwise peaceful people who would have little to no part in your punishment?

I was given OP benifit of the doubt and assuming it was a silly hypothetical thought exercise although it could well be bait.

 

[FallingGrace]

Two examples of projection in 3 minutes, not that I'm here to shit on anyone but seriously take it somewhere else. This person is in a place they're considering the most efficient way to be eliminated from the earth - irrational is not equivalent to "idiocy and bigotry" for god's sake. I'm not sure what aspect of that isn't actually registering in your psychology and why you expect your personal profile's level of methodical planning coming from someone demonstratively desperate to the point of wanting to be murdered by religious devotees for things to end. There are different perspectives to be had around suicide and our choices for it. Do you just as angrily beat down on people choosing suicide by cop, for the same reasons?

Imagine thinking not buying into someone's weird suicide fantasy is projection but okay my guy. Keep fighting the good fight honestly, I DO try to make it a rule not to argue with fellow suicidal people no matter how idiotic they are but if they're planning something that could be harmful to an entire religion that is already suffering multiple genocides funded and excused by the west? Yeah, I'm speaking up. We can do better, and hold each other to some standards.

 

[sugarb]

Imagine thinking not buying into someone's weird suicide fantasy is projection but okay my guy. Keep fighting the good fight honestly, I DO try to make it a rule not to argue with fellow suicidal people no matter how idiotic they are but if they're planning something that could be harmful to an entire religion that is already suffering multiple genocides funded and excused by the west? Yeah, I'm speaking up. We can do better, and hold each other to some standards.

How could burning a Quran in the hopes of being executed by a government that already executes people for burning the Quran be harmful to Islam as a whole?

They aren't trying to get random Uyghurs or Palestinians to kill them in an effort to paint them as bad people, they're talking about going to a fundamentalist state that murders people who burn religious texts and then burning religious texts so they murder them lmao. How would this harm Islam any more than the other blasphemy killings Pakistan carries out?

 

[magicalsarcoma]

maybe you will actually be killed, but it will be really painful. in russia i often see in the news about neighboring or not so neighboring areas, where the main religion is islam, that someone was stoned to death for some nonsense like dance/clothes

 

[Green_leaf]

For example, in Pakistan, if one burns the Quran or desecrates it in public, then is it guaranteed death? Basically, a suicide by cop situation but having a hanker for execution in a controlled environment that isn't reckless. Do Islamic governments such as Pakistan do this to foreigners who aren't from there but obviously commit an infraction against the law such as desecration of their Quran to warrant the death penalty? It would be difficult to argue against it given that it is done in public before many witnesses, no?

Have no idea how it might turn out to burn the Quran in certain countries, have a feeling it is going to be painful and even slow.

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[cryptoinvestor]

they will definitely make you suffer, you'll be begging for death

 

[Kay_Philosopher]

You can probably search the laws online. I don't know why anyone would want to attempt to ctb by way of a foreign government. Too many variables, maybe you will be incarcerated for a lengthy time instead. This is like suicide by cop on a ridiculous scale.

I believe it differs from suicide by cop given that it is happening in a controlled environment with an administered and "ethical" execution. Usually, modern executions are conducted through beheadings or shot in the back of the head now? So, I would assume that the execution wouldn't be a sloppy as being perforated by a series of incoming bullets without the lack of assurance to be killed while potentially left severely injured and impending ramifications.

 

[Chronicallyunwell]

For example, in Pakistan, if one burns the Quran or desecrates it in public, then is it guaranteed death? Basically, a suicide by cop situation but having a hanker for execution in a controlled environment that isn't reckless. Do Islamic governments such as Pakistan do this to foreigners who aren't from there but obviously commit an infraction against the law such as desecration of their Quran to warrant the death penalty? It would be difficult to argue against it given that it is done in public before many witnesses, no?

Please dont do this angel, i know youre desperate but its the worst idea ever lol.