Be careful of your phrasing and the questions you’re willing to answer on a public forum.

[Still Flutter Girl]

Hi Friends,

Just a reminder to be careful of both:

1) Your own phrasing of questions, and
2) The wording of questions that you're willing to answer on a public forum.

We already know that people that don't believe in bodily autonomy monitor this site.

Phrasing something the wrong way can put people at risk if they answer you, and you can also put yourself at risk by answering questions phrased with things like "how do I access ____ to CTB?"

The "to CTB" is unnecessary there, esp on a public forum.

We all know why we're here…and I *personally* get a bad vibe when I see things written that way, especially from newer users.

It IS totally plausible that they're just new and don't realize…but I myself won't be taking chances like that.

I don't plan on being here much longer, if all works out…but this community really helped me to give things at least one last serious effort. It's felt like one of the few places where my mindset is accepted, and not judged.

SS also helped me to feel like I had a choice, and things like talking to other like-minded people and finding a decently palatable method both helped me to have the peace of mind to try harder to exhaust all other avenues. Because of that, I don't feel bad about going out on my own terms, at all.

I know I did my personal best to recover, as the world is just too hostile to my existence, as a poor, disabled, autistic person.

That's a major weight to have off of my shoulders, and I just want others to continue to have that, in the future

Hi Friends,

Just a reminder to be careful of both:

1) Your own phrasing of questions, and
2) The wording of questions that you're willing to answer on a public forum.

We already know that people that don't believe in bodily autonomy monitor this site.

Phrasing something the wrong way can put people at risk if they answer you, and you can also put yourself at risk by answering questions phrased with things like "how do I access ____ to CTB?"

The "to CTB" is unnecessary there, esp on a public forum.

We all know why we're here…and I *personally* get a bad vibe when I see things written that way, especially from newer users.

It IS totally plausible that they're just new and don't realize…but I myself won't be taking chances like that.

I don't plan on being here much longer, if all works out…but this community really helped me to give things at least one last serious effort. It's felt like one of the few places where my mindset is accepted, and not judged.

SS also helped me to feel like I had a choice, and things like talking to other like-minded people and finding a decently palatable method both helped me to have the peace of mind to try harder to exhaust all other avenues. Because of that, I don't feel bad about going out on my own terms, at all.

I know I did my personal best to recover, as the world is just too hostile to my existence, as a poor, disabled, autistic person.

That's a major weight to have off of my shoulders, and I just want others to continue to have that, in the future

PS, I want to be clear that this isn't fearmongering, by a long shot.

It's actually the opposite. I'm just pointing out that doing a few small things slightly differently can help to keep the community safe.

Do your best to stay anonymous, be careful who you share plans with, and mind what you post/ask/answer publicly.

Basically just reminders to help keep individuals (and the community as a whole) safe from those that would rather have people like me endlessly suffer, without choice.

 

[GentleJerk]

It's admirable that you have these concerns, and are willing to try and assist in some way by offering advice.

 

[FuneralCry]

I don't think that there is anything wrong with discussing methods personally. Suicide methods should be able to be discussed openly. The pro lifers are delusional, I don't really care about what pro lifers think. I think that it's best to just to take no notice of them. All humans will die anyway eventually, so therefore suicide shouldn't be so stigmatised. If someone wants to exit at a time of their own choosing then there is nothing wrong with that.

I do think that it's wrong when I have seen people accusing new members as being suspicious with no evidence to support this. Many people who come on here are desperately suffering and just want to leave as soon as possible and the way that they feel is understandable.

I'm sorry that life has been so cruel to you OP. I can imagine that it must be a relief having a plan to exit. I hope that you find freedom from your suffering.

 

[rationaltake]

Thank you. Good advice. It's easy to forget that the forum is public.

 

[castler]

I don't understand why it's a crime to CTB. But assisted suicide is lawful, u can get punished even more-so if your attempt failed and u get discovered.

Despite having its own laws, Maryland still reserves the right to prosecute people under the English Common laws that were in place when America declared independence in 1776. These laws were used to convict a man for attempted suicide in 2018, resulting in a three-year suspended sentence and two years of supervised probation.

Wiki link (clearnet)

That would be even more traumatizing to get a sentence or even probation cuz I tried to commit what is considered an unlawful act but your not commiting it against anyone else (killing someone is worse than suicide) but alot of laws are fuzzy like that.

 

[NeverEndingPain]

Now I'm worried about everything I've posted. Sometimes I'm not good with words. I hope I haven't done anything wrong

 

[Still Flutter Girl]

I don't think that there is anything wrong with discussing methods personally. Suicide methods should be able to be discussed openly. The pro lifers are delusional, I don't really care about what pro lifers think. I think that it's best to just to take no notice of them. All humans will die anyway eventually, so therefore suicide shouldn't be so stigmatised. If someone wants to exit at a time of their own choosing then there is nothing wrong with that.

I do think that it's wrong when I have seen people accusing new members as being suspicious with no evidence to support this. Many people who come on here are desperately suffering and just want to leave as soon as possible and the way that they feel is understandable.

I'm sorry that life has been so cruel to you OP. I can imagine that it must be a relief having a plan to exit. I hope that you find freedom from your suffering.

I'm not talking about not discussing methods…that's what a large percent of us are here for. But there's a difference between discussing methods safely and unsafely. My point is simply that people should be *prudent* with the asking/answering of questions on a public forum.

New users can be totally free of suspicious motives, yet they can still make mistakes that can be disastrous for others. It's part of why not mentioning sources is such a big thing…some people seem to forget that the boards are viewable by pretty much anyone.

Pro-lifers can generally be ignored (though it was distressing to see one insert themselves into a recent goodbye thread). But when they get too loud, sources can become restricted, or completely unavailable (like how easily accessible balloon tanks were lost as a source, a while back). Answering questions framed in a certain way can also cause more PR issues, by giving pro-lifers something to latch onto. An question openly framed as "how can I get x med to CTB" can cause that med to become harder for others to access. We don't need to hand that info to pro-lifers on a silver platter.

I'm simply providing considerations that some may not be thinking about, especially if they're coming here at a rough point in their lives (as many of us are). Leaving a few words unspoken, or using coded language, is what keeps things going.

TL;DR: People that come here for relief should remember to be careful not only for their own sake, but also to avoid doing things that can threaten sources (and the site itself) for those that come *after* them. Many of us are here in the first place because the world is so individualistic

Now I'm worried about everything I've posted. Sometimes I'm not good with words. I hope I haven't done anything wrong

If there was anything that was a major issue, I'm sure people would have mentioned it to you.

I've seen people that have directly mentioned source names be advised to correct their post asap…so if no one's said anything, I wouldn't be too worried about the past.

I don't understand why it's a crime to CTB. But assisted suicide is lawful, u can get punished even more-so if your attempt failed and u get discovered.


Wiki link (clearnet)

That would be even more traumatizing to get a sentence or even probation cuz I tried to commit what is considered an unlawful act but your not commiting it against anyone else (killing someone is worse than suicide) but alot of laws are fuzzy like that.

Yeah, I don't understand it, either. To me, it's part of bodily autonomy. But in the US especially, there's a culture of puritanicalism, where they'll force certain groups (like the disabled poor) into situations that make people seek out relief here, while pretending that systemic issues aren't to blame.

 

[castler]

Now I'm worried about everything I've posted. Sometimes I'm not good with words. I hope I haven't done anything wrong

As long as your not urging someone to carry out a plan there's nothing to worry about. Being supportive is one thing in whatever one decides to do, but being a cheerleader for them hoping they feel CTB is the only way out is def not a good strategy.

 

[NeverEndingPain]

As long as your not urging someone to carry out a plan there's nothing to worry about. Being supportive is one thing in whatever one decides to do, but being a cheerleader for them hoping they feel CTB is the only way out is def not a good strategy.

Ok thank you for your reply. I have definitely not done that.