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charaunderground

charaunderground

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TL;DR: Perhaps be careful if you try this?

(Resource perhaps isn't the best flair, but I'm not certain of a better option.)

I ordered citric acid powder to test the method of that + baking soda to make mass amounts of CO2, as there's been at least one successful CTB with it, and a large amount as opposed to minor buildup can induce unconsciousness in seconds rather than minutes.

I added 2tbsp (~30ml) of each into a ziplock bag plush about 4tbsp (~60ml) total of water. It bubbled for a bit, and when the reaction slowed, I perhaps erred. I thought I could try breathing it to see if the CO2 amount directly could make me dizzy, and since I was holding the bag in my hands, if I felt sick or passed out or whatever, I'd just drop the bag and be fine.

I don't know if it was a result of the CA specifically or the proximity or what (because the smell of the CA alone was "sharp" to me), but breathing it in was physically painful. I don't mean like "panic response" pain, because as a teen I did impulsively just try to slap a bag over my head to CTB, I mean the same sharp sensation you get of inhaling pool water by accident or shooting soda out of your nose or whatever else. Mind, it was no longer bubbling, so this wasn't an issue of that, and while it was "close" to my face, it was over 1ft out.

Luckily, there was no horrible chemical burn or anything. It was just for a few seconds. I did get vaguely dizzy after the fact and have a mild headache, but the immediate pain and the 0-100 escalation ensured I didn't retry.

Perhaps someone will have better luck with, say, putting it in a large trash bag as a test so they're not as close to the source, but that was legitimately jarring as I expected CO2 related pain, not "you just breathed in chlorine water" pain. CA itself may also be the issue because, as I said, just smelling that itself was somewhat uncomfortable.
 
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Interesting, other threads do not report anything remotely similar.

Thank you for sharing
 
charaunderground

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Interesting, other threads do not report anything remotely similar.

Thank you for sharing
It's highly possible the distance was the issue. May retest in the future with something larger than "largest ziplock I can find".
 
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It's highly possible the distance was the issue. May retest in the future with something larger than "largest ziplock I can find".
Turns out CO2 inhalation can be very painful when the concentration is high. I read this article (its long) :
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1258/0023677053739747
100% CO2 will cause you to pass out after 10 seconds but is very painful to inhale. Some people pass out at around 30% with out to much suffering but takes longer time. it says a linear relationship was found between CO2 concentration and pain sensation. Average individual tolerance thresholds ranged from 40% to 55% CO2.
Its probably the reason this method is not so popular.
 
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maniac116

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The elevated C02 will cause the body to become desperate for oxygen. It will kick SI into high gear & you will fail.
Lack of oxygen ironically doesn't cause us to gasp for air. Its actually C02 elevation that causes it.
I never say never but I think this method has overwhelming odds of failure 🤗🌹💔
 
charaunderground

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The elevated C02 will cause the body to become desperate for oxygen. It will kick SI into high gear & you will fail.
Lack of oxygen ironically doesn't cause us to gasp for air. Its actually C02 elevation that causes it.
I never say never but I think this method has overwhelming odds of failure 🤗🌹💔
I know that. But there was a proven successful CTB using the BS+CA (it's a scientific / medical paper), and if the concentration is high enough the panic is meant to last seconds VS minutes.
 
idhayam

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Sep 23, 2023
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TL;DR: Perhaps be careful if you try this?

(Resource perhaps isn't the best flair, but I'm not certain of a better option.)

I ordered citric acid powder to test the method of that + baking soda to make mass amounts of CO2, as there's been at least one successful CTB with it, and a large amount as opposed to minor buildup can induce unconsciousness in seconds rather than minutes.

I added 2tbsp (~30ml) of each into a ziplock bag plush about 4tbsp (~60ml) total of water. It bubbled for a bit, and when the reaction slowed, I perhaps erred. I thought I could try breathing it to see if the CO2 amount directly could make me dizzy, and since I was holding the bag in my hands, if I felt sick or passed out or whatever, I'd just drop the bag and be fine.

I don't know if it was a result of the CA specifically or the proximity or what (because the smell of the CA alone was "sharp" to me), but breathing it in was physically painful. I don't mean like "panic response" pain, because as a teen I did impulsively just try to slap a bag over my head to CTB, I mean the same sharp sensation you get of inhaling pool water by accident or shooting soda out of your nose or whatever else. Mind, it was no longer bubbling, so this wasn't an issue of that, and while it was "close" to my face, it was over 1ft out.

Luckily, there was no horrible chemical burn or anything. It was just for a few seconds. I did get vaguely dizzy after the fact and have a mild headache, but the immediate pain and the 0-100 escalation ensured I didn't retry.

Perhaps someone will have better luck with, say, putting it in a large trash bag as a test so they're not as close to the source, but that was legitimately jarring as I expected CO2 related pain, not "you just breathed in chlorine water" pain. CA itself may also be the issue because, as I said, just smelling that itself was somewhat uncomfortable.
This is the method that I will hopefully CTB with. Through my test rounds, I've found that the concentration of CO2 is what matters the most. I'm aware that it will hurt, but by increasing the concentration to as high as possible, the time it takes for you to gain unconsciousness decreases, so you will feel the immense pain for a lesser amount of time.

I have practiced this enough, so I am fully aware of the pain I will get, but the duration that I will withstand it for all depends on how much CO2 I manage to fit in. I've already filled as many as twenty ziplock bags with CO2, and the last thing I need to figure out is how I will open them all as quick as possible before I can make my final attempt.
 
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I know that. But there was a proven successful CTB using the BS+CA (it's a scientific / medical paper), and if the concentration is high enough the panic is meant to last seconds VS minutes.
I wish you luck in whatever you choose to do. 🤗🌹💔
 

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