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Theres a book about suicide that I'm reading at the moment. Its called "Final Exit The Practicalities of Self-Deliverance and Assisted Suicide" And one of the methods mentioned in said book caught my attention, its a seemingly easy method to carry out and the majority of the materials needed (other than the medications) are generally easy to find and quite cheap. Only consider this method if you are absolutely sure that this particular method is right for you.

Materials: A bag large enough to fit your head, 2 elastic bands just big enough to stretch over your head and sut firmly around your neck (above the Adam's apple) , a cheap paper painter's mask (usually found in a hardware store)

Necessary Medications: Sleep aids such as Dalmane, Halcion or Sominex and take enough to put you to sleep in as short a time as possible ( at least ten minutes), but no longer than thirty. OTC sleep aids will suffice if they work for you and are taken in sufficient quantity.

ESSENTIAL TESTING AND EXPERIMENTATION

Well before the time of the intended self-deliverance, when thinking clearly, and in the company of another person who is supporting your action (probably not the case for most people here but if possible, it is advised), Do the following:

1. Examine the bag for possible holes. Blow into it and put another bag inside if doubtful.
2. Painter's mask. This will prevent the bag from being sucked into the mouth and nostrils.
3. Put the two elastic bands around the neck to check size and tightness. It is imperative that they aren't so tight as to be uncomfortable or so loose as to allow leaks.


Set up concoction to test it and take it off immediately after. You will be surprised how a few quick practice attempts will help you become acclimatized to a strange procedure and often remove the discomfort. Now, make a decision about the size, shape, and colour of the bag. If you select a larger one, you must be willing to allow the self deliverance to be slower. Should you be bothered by the plastic on your forehead and eyes, wear a hat with a stiff brim such as a baseball cap.

When the date that you have chosen to carry out your ctb has arrived, follow these steps:

1. Set up the concoction
2. Make sure to be in a distinctly cold room, a warmer room will exaggerate the natural heating effect of the enclosed bag and may induce discomfort.
3. Get info a comfortable seating position, preferably slightly tilted backwards. Lying is not the best position (see why in step
4. Take the sleep aids and perhaps a few tranquilizers if they are on hand. Wash them down with a soft drink or an alcoholic beverage. Now is the time to act quickly and decisively.
5. Put 2 elastic bands over head and settle them around your neck
6. Place the painter's mask over nose and mouth
7. Place the bag over your head and draw the elastic bands over the bag, sealing it shut and preventing any leakages. Place the bands over the Adam's apple.
8. With your thumbs, hold the elastic bands a few inches away from the Adam's apple, allowing a supply of air to get in. So that your arms will drop when you fall asleep, be sure that they aren't being supported by any armrests or pillows.
9. Wait until the sleep aids take action and as sleep overwhelms you allow your hands to drop and the elastic bands to close firmly around your neck. Breathing will continue normally. Holding the bag open until you feel ready to go is the key to acceptability of the entire procedure.

The bag may mist up and water droplets may form but the person inside is fast asleep and will not notice this. Observers can expect to see cyanosis occurring. As long as there is no further intake of air, death will follow in about thirty minutes after the onset of sleep and the simultaneous closure of the bag. Breathing continues until death follows due to lack of oxygen. This is not suffocation in the usual sense of the word; there is no choking.

PRECAUTIONS TO TAKE IN CASE OF FAILURE

If something as gone wrong during the procedures, take the apparatus off, pause for careful reflection, and start again if the will to die still remains.
 
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Thanks for providing this information. Have you tried this yourself?
 
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Thanks for providing this information. Have you tried this yourself?
It is very hard to try this to practice, there is a high risk of death.
I have tried without sleeping pills, it is torture without the sleeping pills.
Also, you need to use strong elastic bands (the thick ones) to get this to work.
 
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It is very hard to try this to practice, there is a high risk of death.
I have tried without sleeping pills, it is torture without the sleeping pills.
Also, you need to use strong elastic bands (the thick ones) to get this to work.
OK thanks for clarification
 
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I think, people pay too much attention to meds and underestimate a possible strength of distracting the attention. For example, it is well known fact that some people accidentally die because of erotic asphyxiation even though they don't have an intention to die at all. If you concentrate your attention on something unrelated to the procedure, your perception of suffocation symptoms may be weakened a lot.
 
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I think, people pay too much attention to meds and underestimate a possible strength of distracting the attention. For example, it is well known fact that some people accidentally die because of erotic asphyxiation even though they don't have an intention to die at all. If you concentrate your attention on something unrelated to the procedure, your perception of suffocation symptoms may be weakened a lot.
I'm not sure if I understand your point here, my native language isn't english but I will try to express what I understood from this, apologies if I'm wrong about something.

This method obviously shouldn't be used impulsively and this method is actually very easy to carry out (with the right medications) which is a downside to this method. But, focusing on the procedure rather than the reality and seriousness of the situation can at times reduce the urge to actually die and yes, the perception of such symptoms of suffocation can be weakened.

I only think this method is suitable for those who are 100% sure they want to die.
 
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Would a thinner (ex. Oven bag) or thicker plastic be ideal?
 
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Would a thinner (ex. Oven bag) or thicker plastic be ideal?
You may rip it apart but yes if its not too thin that you can rip it apart then it would be ideal, maybe.
The thing is, this method was actually mentioned in a book about suicide and I wrote it here to spread information, I didn't make up this method.
 
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I only think this method is suitable for those who are 100% sure they want to die.
That's a good point, so may be the trick with distracted attention is not worth using. After all, if you're 100% sure that you want to end the game, there should be no any fear of suffering or dying.
 
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I'd be very surprised if this method would work the way it's intended. I think most people will wake up due to the body's hypercapnic alarm response and rip the bag off their head. The only way this might work is through exceptionally strong sedatives.
 
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You may rip it apart but yes if its not too thin that you can rip it apart then it would be ideal, maybe.
The thing is, this method was actually mentioned in a book about suicide and I wrote it here to spread information, I didn't make up this method.
You may rip it apart but yes if its not too thin that you can rip it apart then it would be ideal, maybe.
The thing is, this method was actually mentioned in a book about suicide and I wrote it here to spread information, I didn't make up this method.
i have some questins to ask to you . can you pm me? Somehow i cant pm you
 
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Somehow i cant pm you
Yes thats understandable, I made it so that people couldn't pm me because I have been getting requests for sources all the time. I woke up to so many notifications and to my surprise, expecting to be met with responses to my comments I have new conversations started with me being asked for sources.

We can talk.
 
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I'd be very surprised if this method would work the way it's intended. I think most people will wake up due to the body's hypercapnic alarm response and rip the bag off their head. The only way this might work is through exceptionally strong sedatives.
I've seen enough news websites that describe successful attempts of applying the plain bag method without mentioning a usage of any meds or other supplementary means.
 
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You said breathing will continue for a while but also to put on masking tape on nose and mouth. Will it still allow breathing? Also what is concoction?
 
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You said breathing will continue for a while but also to put on masking tape on nose and mouth. Will it still allow breathing? Also what is concoction?
Not masking tape I think.

Concoction is just like the setup for the method (I think its the right word)
 
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Don't have SI? Wouldn't it be ideal to handcuff yourself too?
 
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I really want to thank you for doing this topic. Today I was searching for the book and work of the author and it was so simply to found even in my languaje (spanish). I'm reading the book already and it gives me peace for having it. Considering the bag method really, it looks less scary than SN
 
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Halcion is a very strong sedative. I used to take it for sleep and within minutes you just black out. Not so easy to get though.

I'll keep track of this thread! Ty for sharing. ♥️
 
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I really want to thank you for doing this topic. Today I was searching for the book and work of the author and it was so simply to found even in my languaje (spanish). I'm reading the book already and it gives me peace for having it. Considering the bag method really, it looks less scary than SN
I'm hoping this method will work with just alcohol until passing out
 
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I might use this method. Thankyou sm!
 
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anyone tried this method recently??
 
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hi, wondering if a large ziplock bag would work instead of an oven bag?
 
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two failed attempts... I don't have access to any strong sedatives like Halcion, so my only option was to go get Chloroform from some lab. I used covid masks to pour to chloroform on however, in both attempts, I woke up distraught, covered in vomit, trying to fight my for my life as if I'm dreaming and then realising what's going on. I was covered in vomit in first attempt even though I was on my back I did not choke on my own vomit. The second time, I fell out of bed on the wrong side, off to a close space between the wall and the bed, fight to get out of there and the bag was off again full of vomit. Don't remember most of what's happened during both of those times, now I have burns and bruises on my face and arm that I am trying to make sense of. I should've been gone a month ago, my decision is all logical, thought through in dept for many years, but I can't achieve the outcome I want ,dunno what to do anymore.
 
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