Marco77

Marco77

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In Switzerland it is possible to access assisted suicide if you are suffering. Many people have received the green light due to bereavement in the family and inability to live without the person who unfortunately died. Obviously it's not free. You pay around 10,000 euros.

Of course there is painless suicide!
 
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Fakefriendhate_Maxx

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Interesting to hear that. But isn't there a minimum age?
 
Marco77

Marco77

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Interesting to hear that. But isn't there a minimum age?
You must be of age. Only the Netherlands and Belgium allow assisted suicide for minors.
Interesting to hear that. But isn't there a minimum age?
The report states that this case remains exceptional and that euthanasia is reserved for extreme cases: the fact that two and a half years have passed from the extension of the euthanasia law to sick minors to this first implementation is proof of this . Distelmans said: "Fortunately there are only a few children who are being considered for euthanasia, but this does not mean we should refuse them a dignified death." In the Belgian law on euthanasia it is written that requests for help in dying can only be heard if sick minors have a medical situation where they experience "terrible physical suffering" and if they have asked several times to be able to die. Psychiatric illnesses are excluded from the pathologies considered by the law, and the suffering referred to must also be exclusively physical. Euthanasia is also legal in other countries, but only in Belgium can it be practiced regardless of age, which has obviously been questioned by many people, including religious people and paediatricians, who are doubtful about whether a child can get a such a decision. Even in the Netherlands it can be requested by minors under 18, but only if they are over 12: between 12 and 16 the consent of their parents or guardians is also necessary, between 16 and 18 it is not necessary even if the parents and guardians must still be consulted

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It was the Italian newspaper La Repubblica that made public the case of Marta, a 55-year-old academic from Turin who died last October in Basel. Devastated by the death of her teenage son after a long illness, the woman had long expressed the desire to end it. The family then managed to change her mind. Or at least, that's how it seemed. Until the trip to Switzerland, which he chose to keep secret. Hundreds of kilometers away in the UK, another case was recently reported by the Mail on Sunday. Chemistry teacher Alastair Hamilton, 47, was tormented by health problems for which tests and medical consultations had found no explanation. Hamilton told his family he was going to visit a friend in Paris. He died in August 2022 in Basel with the help of Pegasos Swiss Association. The family's statements are harsh, accusing the organization of "behaving like a cowboy".

 
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babouflo201223

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Not so easy at all in Switzerland. I mailed Dignitas with a lot of details about my sufferings. I'm 52 years old. They told me I will have no chance to have the green light.
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Forever Sleep

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I wasn't aware of that. I thought it had to be physical chronic illness, maybe mental illness case by case. I wasn't aware they offered it for bereavement. Do you have any details/ links to articles?
 
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babouflo201223

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Je n'étais pas au courant. Je pensais qu'il s'agissait d'une maladie chronique physique, peut-être d'une maladie mentale au cas par cas. Je ne savais pas qu'ils le proposaient pour le deuil. Avez-vous des détails/des liens vers des articles ?
Unfortunately, it's not so easy. I live alone, I have no kids, no friends, only old parents as family but they are not with me. I lost wy wife from a brain cancer in 2006, and even if I had a girlfriend next, I always felt depressed and had treatment since then. Last year, at the end of December, my girlfriend went far away to start a new life without me. Since then, I'm into despair, 5 weeks in psychiatric hospital at the beginning of the year, failed suicide in April ang again 5 weeks in psychiatric hospital. It changes absolutely nothing. I can't stand this life. I take antidepressors and benzos since I was 21 years old and I'm now 52. My old parents (my only family) understand my sufferings and would accept and support my decision to go to Switzerland for assisted suicide. But Dignitas clearly answered me that I won't have the green light.
 
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Fakefriendhate_Maxx

I just hope my death makes more sense than my life
May 18, 2024
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Not so easy at all in Switzerland. I mailed Dignitas with a lot of details about my sufferings. I'm 52 years old. They told me I will have no chance to have the green light.
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May I ask from what you suffer?
 
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babouflo201223

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Puis-je vous demander de quoi vous souffrez ?
Strong depression, a long suffering since I was 21 years old and I'm now 52 ! I took many and many different antidepressors + anxyolitics. Without real effect. I had a wonderful wife who helped me during many years, ups and downs, but depression never disappeared. She died from a brain cancer in 2006. Awful for her. And my depression increased again after her death. A friend of her helped me and became next my girlfriend, and I loved her so much, but depression never disappeared and I never stopped to take antidepressors and anxiolytic treatments. Last year, at the end of december, my girlfriend went far away to start a new life without me, I understand it's not very pleasant to share a depressed man's life during more than 15 years, even if she loved me and was a wonderful woman too. Her departure let me into deeper despair as never. I spent 5 weeks into psychiatric hospital at the beginning of the year. Changed nothing. After a failed suicide in April, I spent 5 weeks again in psychiatric hospital. Changed nothing. It's why I decided to reach Dignitas and asked them about my case for an assisted suicide. The answer was that I won't have the green light, they told me they can't help depressed people, as terrible could be the depression sufferings. It's just my experience with them, but I don't why it would be different withe somebody else with the same very long (31 years !) mental illness.
 
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Unfortunately, it's not so easy. I live alone, I have no kids, no friends, only old parents as family but they are not with me. I lost wy wife from a brain cancer in 2006, and even if I had a girlfriend next, I always felt depressed and had treatment since then. Last year, at the end of December, my girlfriend went far away to start a new life without me. Since then, I'm into despair, 5 weeks in psychiatric hospital at the beginning of the year, failed suicide in April ang again 5 weeks in psychiatric hospital. It changes absolutely nothing. I can't stand this life. I take antidepressors and benzos since I was 21 years old and I'm now 52. My old parents (my only family) understand my sufferings and would accept and support my decision to go to Switzerland for assisted suicide. But Dignitas clearly answered me that I won't have the green light.
I'm so sorry they rejected you. Did they give a reason?
 
nihilistic_dragon

nihilistic_dragon

Dead already. Just need to dispose of my body now.
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Gosh it sucks that some dude or dudess in scrubs gets to decide the amount of suffering YOU are able to take. How about they let us decide for ourselves since we're adults.
 
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Marco77

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Aug 18, 2024
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Unfortunately, it's not so easy. I live alone, I have no kids, no friends, only old parents as family but they are not with me. I lost wy wife from a brain cancer in 2006, and even if I had a girlfriend next, I always felt depressed and had treatment since then. Last year, at the end of December, my girlfriend went far away to start a new life without me. Since then, I'm into despair, 5 weeks in psychiatric hospital at the beginning of the year, failed suicide in April ang again 5 weeks in psychiatric hospital. It changes absolutely nothing. I can't stand this life. I take antidepressors and benzos since I was 21 years old and I'm now 52. My old parents (my only family) understand my sufferings and would accept and support my decision to go to Switzerland for assisted suicide. But Dignitas clearly answered me that I won't have the green light.
Try Pegasos association in Switzerland. Dignitas is much more political and has the eyes of European governments aimed at it.
 
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babouflo201223

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Aug 18, 2024
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Pegasos also refuses to give the green light for depression and mental illness. I didn't try them but you can read here (in summer for exemple) people who tried and were refused.
Je suis vraiment désolé qu'ils t'aient rejeté. Ont-ils donné une raison ?
Oui, Dignitas ne donne pas le feu vert pour la dépression ou d'autres maladies mentales. C'est un grand NON.
And in fact, Pegasos is the same about depression.
Je suis vraiment désolé qu'ils t'aient rejeté. Ont-ils donné une raison ?
Oui, Dignitas ne donne pas le feu vert pour la dépression ou d'autres maladies mentales. C'est un grand NON.
And in fact, Pegasos is the same about depression.
Je suis vraiment désolé qu'ils t'aient rejeté. Ont-ils donné une raison ?
Oui, Dignitas ne donne pas le feu vert pour la dépression ou d'autres maladies mentales. C'est un grand NON.
And in fact, Pegasos is the same about depression.
 
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J&L383

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Jul 18, 2023
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Not so easy at all in Switzerland. I mailed Dignitas with a lot of details about my sufferings. I'm 52 years old. They told me I will have no chance to have the green light.
Try Pegasos association in Switzerland. Dignitas is much more political and has the eyes of European governments aimed at it.
The author Norah Vincent died at Pegasos, also in her 50s, for depression. In 2022. But she had at least a 10 or 20 year history of it and two suicide attempts according to reportings I found on the internet. They're supposed to be covered by the same guidelines but Dignitas does seem to be more stringent. When it comes to mental illness.
 
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babouflo201223

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L'auteur Norah Vincent est décédée à Pegasos, elle aussi âgée d'une cinquantaine d'années, de dépression. En 2022. Mais elle avait au moins 10 ou 20 ans d'antécédents de dépression et deux tentatives de suicide selon des rapports que j'ai trouvés sur Internet. Ils sont censés être couverts par les mêmes directives, mais Dignitas semble être plus strict. En ce qui concerne la maladie mentale.
I don't understand how she had the green light, maybe easier for V.I.P. to have strong files to show. What's sure, I'm 52 years old, depressed since 21 years old, took AD (many different) + benzos since then, never a period without, and Pegasis answer is the same as Dignitas one : no assisted suicide for depression.
 

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