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TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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Over the years throughout my entire sentience existence and experiences that I had, I stumbled upon an interesting insight and thought. This article will explain the insight as well as give my reasoning and thought-process regarding it. It will also touch a bit on the concept of 'confidentiality' and keeping things to oneself and while it does shadow into one of my articles about 'confidentiality' that is only a small part of the insight. Anyways, so here is the article in this thread, but before I delve into it, the "their" I am referring to is pro-lifers, anti-choicers, preventionists, and general normies (people who are not pro-choice with regards to the right to die or CTB).

Throughout my life and existence, I have often noticed people (whether in real life or even online, moreso the former before the Internet became popular or even widespread, so mid 90's to early 2000's), whenever they expressed their wish or intention to CTB, a few questions popped into my mind, "Why would someone do that, and what is the benefit (or detriment) of doing so?" and "What does someone hope to gain (or achieve) by doing so?" (Worded differently of course, but the concept is still the same). After giving it some further ponderance and deliberation on the question, I arrived at a conclusion and ugly reality. The ugly reality is that when people say that (while to many observers), they take it as a 'cry for help' and perhaps for many of those people that may be the case, but NOT everyone who expresses it wants to be saved, wants their right to die/bodily autonomy to be impinged upon. Instead, doing so offers no real advantage for the announcer, but only disadvantages, and while some people may look for that 'validation' of their decision, they will get unwanted intervention instead of 'validation', oftenly complicating matters for themselves more. It's kind of like they are looking for 'permission' and while it is understandable that one wishes to have people who would validate or support them, they are unlikely to find them in the mainstream, and at worst, may have other unwanted troubles that they never asked for (such as being gaslighted, scrutinized, monitored, treated like an infant or even a criminal despite doing nothing wrong, etc.).

Even as teenager or young adult, when I spoke too freely, or hinted at such, it only made things more complicated and more difficult, which was a life lesson for myself (as a teenager and/or young adult at the time), that there is nothing good (for us, the pro-choicer) to gain, but much to lose (liberty, personal freedom, reputation, mark or scarlet letter, and/or even civil rights – worst case) by mentioning or even hinting at intention to CTB. We won't be validated, understood, (or even those who do may still try to work against us, impinge our civil liberties under the guise of benevolent paternalism, which is even worse but I digress), but instead, treated like criminals, like a problem to be resolved, and/or some infant who doesn't know what is best for oneself. Therefore, whenever I found the SaSu community, I found the validation I was seeking for and a community that respects personal choice when it comes to the right to die.

Therefore, in conclusion, there is nothing to be gained from revealing one's intention to CTB or even hinting at it, and especially for people (similar to us, some of us) who made up our minds, we don't need their (the pro-lifers, normies, anti-choicers, preventionists) permission to do so! In fact, it may be more dangerous and risky to have our intentions known as they would work against us, impeding and impinging on our choice to go on our own terms. If people are searching for validation or even permission, they sadly, will not find either in the mainstream world as the mainstream world and society is a prohibitive one when it comes to the matter of the right to die and bodily autonomy with respect to such.
 
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Dante_

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Astute and concise as always. A lot of what you is drawn of ExistentialGoof in similarity, someone i admire a lot tbh with the way he conveys his points.
 
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TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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Thank you and I appreciate your compliments as always. I do want to say that I am not existentialgoof, but yes, I do share very similar thought processes and sentiments as he does, albeit just worded and expressed differently.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I agree that not everyone who expresses it necessarily wants to be 'saved' or that they do it for effect as some dramatic 'cry for help.'

Really, I think they are such big thoughts to have though. You have to get over the taboo of having the thoughts- more extreme if you have a religious background. If it's so severe that it's become active ideation, a person will have so many things to consider. Fears around finding and executing a method. Concerns for the people we leave behind. Concerns about death itself and even a possible afterlife- again if the person has spiritual beliefs or, is unsure. That's so much to be carrying all alone. It's no real wonder people do hope that they could share the burden with someone. It's just so sad that the response isn't always very supportive.

People may also be sharing their plans and feelings hoping to lessen the shock on others if/ when they do it.

I think most people likely make a private assessment on whether they can tell those people around them. Some likely would actually be grateful to know and may even be supportive. A lot would simply freak out though, possibly even abandon the person or become aggressive towards them. So, I think people have to be so careful as to who they tell and, how much. Even professionally- ironically. I suspect many people are lying to or concealing from therapists certain things that may get them sectioned.
 
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