Are you a Promortalist?

[esoterispeec]

Pro mortalism is a philosophical belief that it is objectively better to die than to continue living. The reasoning for it is very similar to antinatalism: when you don't exist, you won't experience suffering, and you won't be aware of or care about any positive experiences that would have happened if you stayed alive.

 

[WornOutLife]

Wow I hadn't heard of this.
I think I am!

 

[killedbypsychiatry]

I think pro mortalism applies to my case, it's definitely better to die than to continue living, but a year ago before getting sick I wasn't a pro mortalist.

 

[iwanttodie000]

I definitely believe it in my case. I need to die and want to die for various reasons, but in general, it will be better to just not exist and feel nothing, take up no resources and go into the black abyss.

 

[booray]

Well, I know that I'm not an antinatalist because I don't wish that I'd never been born. I had a relatively good life until I ruined it with drugs, and even though I am now sober, I've come to the conclusion that recovery is not possible because I'll never be able to have a life worth living again. So as to whether I'm a promortalist, I may very well be. I want to die because my life is filled with suffering due to severe depression and anxiety, and I don't believe that anything positive will happen to me from here on out.

 

[Mistake of Nature]

"Death is not an evil, because it frees us from all evils, and while it takes away good things, it takes away also the desire for them." ― Giacomo Leopardi

In theory, yes. I'm an antinatalist/efilist as well, so promortalism fits nicely into my belief system. I view death as the ultimate cure for the ills of existence and as a relatively positive occurrence (mostly for the deceased, not for survivors), though I admit that I remain a slave to my survival instincts and am terrified of dying and death in general.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Well I can't speak for anyone else but I do know that me dying will indeed make the world a better place not just for environmental reasons but because I know that as long as I am allowed to exist I will continue to directly make other peoples lives miserable.

 

[TheSomebody]

yes, because I think non-existence is absolute peace.

 

[fred farkle]

i am now!

 

[wait.what]

That's as good an argument for death as I've ever heard. I can't say I think every person on Earth would be better off dead, though, although the rest of the planet would certainly have been better off if humanity had kept to being a few million hunter-gatherers. I am glad I never had kids, so maybe I'm an antinatalist?

 

[Lupgevif]

I think I am better dead than alive, but that's only for myself, I can't speak for others; so I think I am only an anti-natalist.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I can't believe I've never heard of this ... but yes, I think I am. I want to go because of emotional hypersensitivity, the constant emotional pain ... and nothing will matter after I'm gone. The things like "could've" happened won't matter

 

[EmbraceOfTheVoid]

Same as @Lupgevif

Some people do have lucky, worthwhile, and fulfilling lives so I can't agree that death is always preferable to life for everyone. I can only say that death is better than living my own life which is full of perpetual suffering.

 

[noname223]

I am clearly not. A pro-mortalist thinks that under any circumstances suicide is the better option.
For someone who has a family, is rich and lives in a free country. Someone who loves his life. I think suicide is objectively the wrong answer.

 

[StringPuppet]

Idk if this counts but I only currently think I am. I know life as it exists right now is full of suffering, pain, conflict, consumption, and boredom. But I also know it's unlikely that humanity will ever voluntarily go extinct, so in the far future (long after I'm gone) I hope advancements in technology could make life worth living by exponentially increasing and decreasing the threshold for pleasure and pain a person can experience, respectively. I'd hope we'd also minimize the amount of consumption we do as a specifies and will be able to reverse any damage we've already done to the planet, along with improving the quality of life for all other living creatures on it, so our existence will be morally justified.
This is all assuming we're capable of using far-future technology to improve things, it's also possible we'll only use it to make things worse. If that turns out to be the case then I'd suggest we just focus on programing super intelligent robots that could accomplish a tangible amount of good in our stead. If we can't even do that, then yeah, we should probably just die.

 

[Superdeterminist]

I'm not, because I don't think it's *objectively* better to die than to live. I think that such a judgement can only ever be made subjectively. I don't think there's a universal 'life' experience, we each perceive it differently, living different lives, despite inhabiting the same singular reality. There really are people who love and enjoy life and praise it even when they suffer, which baffles me, nonetheless they really do exist.

What I do know is that my own life is (probably) better not continuing. Can't speak for anyone else,

 

[Sensei]

Being emotionally and intellectually unstable, I'd say I'm a semi-promortalist. There are times when I see death as a clearly better option than life, but there are other times when I see it the opposite way. Be that as it may, it's a very interesting concept. Maybe we should form a promortalist movement, The Temple of Promortalism? Something tells me it wouldn't attract many members outside of this community, though.

 

[idontevenknowanymore]

I think people should have the option to die peacefully and on their own terms if they suffered for too long. Sure, recovery should be tried before that imo but the option should be there

 

[ExistHarm]

yup

 

[FuneralCry]

I certainly view it as always being preferable to cease existing, as I despise life in itself and could never see this futile process where we are destined to decay from age as being worth enduring. Life in itself undeniably is the true problem, it's a tragic mistake how life is even able to exist in this world. It's a curse to have the ability to suffer and feel pain, so of course to not exist at all certainly is ideal. To die solves all problems and there are certainly no disadvantages to not existing.

 

[itsallpointless]

I used to fluctuate between the two but nowadays I see myself as more of a promortalist, but only for myself, which I do share with other people through empathy(I mirror my personal standards onto other people, but of course, accept that everyone is different and people deviate). My rationale for myself is that my life is valuable because while I am alive and have capability to affect my locus of control, I will use that power to add value to this world however I can. Since my life is valuable it would be a loss to die, thus, promortalism is the way to go.

 

[SexyIncél]

Non-promortalists like me can learn tons from promortalists. And they have the advantage of being right