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- Aug 18, 2020
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Today I have read that someone got very nasty replies when she possibly were pregnant. Other people who have procreated complained about offensive comments towards them. Not sure if being offensive is a too hard word. Maybe it was only unfriendly. I don't have the exact quotes in mind but I have read similar replies.
I think antinatalism is very widespread in this forum. I also sympathize with it. Sometimes more and sometimes less. In my opinion there are good arguments for this philosophy but also some arguments against it. I can fully understand that people on here turn to antinatalism. Not being born at all is a wish many people on here share. This would have prevented all the unnecessary and torturous suffering.
However it is not a good sign when people who have procreated are too afraid to express that part of their biography. I have read also very compassionate posts when someone has lost his/her child to suicide. It is not a black or white pattern. There are also a lot of grey areas.
Personally I am not sure how bad the situation in this forum is concerning that topic. I am not too aware about it. Maybe the people who have experienced something hurtful could open up about it. On the other hand maybe it is too uncomfortable for them to talk about it.
I am not sure about the moral or ethical aspects concerning this discussion. Maybe someone would consider it as justifiable being harsh on someone who has procreated. Due to the possible pain they have caused or might cause in the future. I think there was a thread a long time ago someone told she or he really had the desire to procreate. Yeah even I have to admit you probably won't get too many welcoming replies when you post this in a suicide forum. On the other hand if you want to share something like that in this forum you probably want to get comments from other people. And you can express with decency that you think this is not a good idea without hurting (?) someone. But if you do something like that you should be aware you get many many replies telling you procreating is not a good idea.
In another perspective it might even be counterproductive to talk about that at all. Maybe it is like politics. The debate can get very heated very fast. However in this forum most are on the not-procreate side. I can remember in my self-help group someone asked if bipolar disorder has a genetical component. I replied yes. A debate started. There was an old man who had the opinion bipolar people should not procreate. Ironically he procreated but he saw how much his child suffered due to that. Other people felt deeply hurt by this stance.
My final words. We should treat each other with respect and we should not use any insults. This topic can get very emotional for many of us. People can get hurt on both sides. We should think carefully about our words. I have to admit this really sounds like old and boring platitudes. But I don't really have something better to offer. It would be really interesting when other people would open up about their experiences with this topic.
As I said I am not sure about the extent of this problem.
I think antinatalism is very widespread in this forum. I also sympathize with it. Sometimes more and sometimes less. In my opinion there are good arguments for this philosophy but also some arguments against it. I can fully understand that people on here turn to antinatalism. Not being born at all is a wish many people on here share. This would have prevented all the unnecessary and torturous suffering.
However it is not a good sign when people who have procreated are too afraid to express that part of their biography. I have read also very compassionate posts when someone has lost his/her child to suicide. It is not a black or white pattern. There are also a lot of grey areas.
Personally I am not sure how bad the situation in this forum is concerning that topic. I am not too aware about it. Maybe the people who have experienced something hurtful could open up about it. On the other hand maybe it is too uncomfortable for them to talk about it.
I am not sure about the moral or ethical aspects concerning this discussion. Maybe someone would consider it as justifiable being harsh on someone who has procreated. Due to the possible pain they have caused or might cause in the future. I think there was a thread a long time ago someone told she or he really had the desire to procreate. Yeah even I have to admit you probably won't get too many welcoming replies when you post this in a suicide forum. On the other hand if you want to share something like that in this forum you probably want to get comments from other people. And you can express with decency that you think this is not a good idea without hurting (?) someone. But if you do something like that you should be aware you get many many replies telling you procreating is not a good idea.
In another perspective it might even be counterproductive to talk about that at all. Maybe it is like politics. The debate can get very heated very fast. However in this forum most are on the not-procreate side. I can remember in my self-help group someone asked if bipolar disorder has a genetical component. I replied yes. A debate started. There was an old man who had the opinion bipolar people should not procreate. Ironically he procreated but he saw how much his child suffered due to that. Other people felt deeply hurt by this stance.
My final words. We should treat each other with respect and we should not use any insults. This topic can get very emotional for many of us. People can get hurt on both sides. We should think carefully about our words. I have to admit this really sounds like old and boring platitudes. But I don't really have something better to offer. It would be really interesting when other people would open up about their experiences with this topic.
As I said I am not sure about the extent of this problem.