Dawn0071111

Dawn0071111

Hungry Ghost
Dec 9, 2018
570
I'm just curious. There seems to be a lot of stigma and cultural issues in the black community. Supposedly, we have the lowest rate of suicide. I am a Black Woman, so for some reason I am supposed to have some sort of magical strength from my skin color that prevents me from wanting to board the bus. i have even heard ignorant shit like: "Suicide and Mental Illness is White Peoples shit.." Oh dear God, the ignorance...But, just to quantify... Am I the only Black Girl on SS? The man I married is White and my Truama guy from last summer was Latino. I never felt I fit in with my race and think most race shit is stupid.... I never cared but I am curious.
 
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Kirkscoobz

Kirkscoobz

Experienced
Feb 8, 2019
219
Black or white it does not matter, we are all human, I know its not as simple as this but it should be,
 
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Dawn0071111

Dawn0071111

Hungry Ghost
Dec 9, 2018
570
Black or white it does not matter, we are all human, I know its not as simple as this but it should be,
I agree... im just curious.....
 
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Stan

Stan

Factoid Hunter
Aug 29, 2019
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I have read that statistic before as well, but I think there are other factors as well. Needs to be cross referenced with ethnicity and church going, being in a strong community and other social factors. Those bring a level more value to 'life' which is why the level of agreeing to the principle of euthanasia is lower in the black community versus the white community. But that's just a thought rather than a fact
 
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Divine Trinity

Pugna Vigil
Mar 20, 2019
310
I'm just curious. There seems to be a lot of stigma and cultural issues in the black community. Supposedly, we have the lowest rate of suicide. I am a Black Woman, so for some reason I am supposed to have some sort of magical strength from my skin color that prevents me from wanting to board the bus. i have even heard ignorant shit like: "Suicide and Mental Illness is White Peoples shit.." Oh dear God, the ignorance...But, just to quantify... Am I the only Black Girl on SS? The man I married is White and my Truama guy from last summer was Latino. I never felt I fit in with my race and think most race shit is stupid.... I never cared but I am curious.
The black community, what remains of it, largely self-identifies as christian and is for the most part liberal (right-wing). However I think those statistics do not accurately represent each generation, specifically the younger ones.

One of, if not the only, benefit of such a "conservative" demographic is a sense of community, which women on average benefit more from than men. The key word is "average".

As far as race is concerned, being "colorblind" is very convenient when the gun isn't pointed at your head. And at the end of the day race is a human myth, but other's perceptions become our reality.
 
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DepressionsAHo

DepressionsAHo

Heaven gained a new ho
Feb 15, 2019
831
Yes
 
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White_Room293

White_Room293

rapid cycling gay guy
Sep 13, 2019
155
I'm just curious. There seems to be a lot of stigma and cultural issues in the black community. Supposedly, we have the lowest rate of suicide. I am a Black Woman, so for some reason I am supposed to have some sort of magical strength from my skin color that prevents me from wanting to board the bus. i have even heard ignorant shit like: "Suicide and Mental Illness is White Peoples shit.." Oh dear God, the ignorance...But, just to quantify... Am I the only Black Girl on SS? The man I married is White and my Truama guy from last summer was Latino. I never felt I fit in with my race and think most race shit is stupid.... I never cared but I am curious.
Yes, I am. I fit into my own race but my attractions usually aren't towards blacks much. It's just due to the environment I grew up in. Most of people's attractions are due to their environment and a bit of genetics.
 
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Beautifulletdown

Beautifulletdown

Brightburn
Jul 6, 2019
231
Hi @Dawn0071111 I'm also a black woman on SS.
 
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Dawn0071111

Dawn0071111

Hungry Ghost
Dec 9, 2018
570
Yes, I am. I fit into my own race but my attractions usually aren't towards blacks much. It's just due to the environment I grew up in. Most of people's attractions are due to their environment and a bit of genetics.
Same here... I always am the girl that ppl ask me "where I am from." My interests dont reflect the norm but who gives a shit! Your right it really is all about how we a raised.
 
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Life sucks

Visionary
Apr 18, 2018
2,136
Humans are superficial. Skin color is one of the many outside things that has no relation to what's inside. Everyone is a different consciousness living a different life with different circumstances. That's why life is absurd, everyone has their complexity inside themselves and a whole world none knows about but everyone just look at the superficial parts and communicate based on it.
 
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justanotherday

Specialist
Jul 22, 2019
397
I'm just curious. There seems to be a lot of stigma and cultural issues in the black community. Supposedly, we have the lowest rate of suicide. I am a Black Woman, so for some reason I am supposed to have some sort of magical strength from my skin color that prevents me from wanting to board the bus. i have even heard ignorant shit like: "Suicide and Mental Illness is White Peoples shit.." Oh dear God, the ignorance...But, just to quantify... Am I the only Black Girl on SS? The man I married is White and my Truama guy from last summer was Latino. I never felt I fit in with my race and think most race shit is stupid.... I never cared but I am curious.
Most of my friends are black.
 
Dawn0071111

Dawn0071111

Hungry Ghost
Dec 9, 2018
570
Humans are superficial. Skin color is one of the many outside things that has no relation to what's inside. Everyone is a different consciousness living a different life with different circumstances. That's why life is absurd, everyone has their complexity inside themselves and a whole world none knows about but everyone just look at the superficial parts and communicate based on it.
Agree...
Most of my friends are black.
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justanotherday

Specialist
Jul 22, 2019
397
I live in a mixed area... black and white... and it makes no difference to me what color skin. But, I understand what you are saying that a lot of people expect black women to be pro-life/ against suicide. I am guessing because of the strong influence of the Christian church....
 
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Squiddy

Squiddy

Here Lies My Hopes And Dreams
Sep 4, 2019
5,903
I'm a black woman on this site
 
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The.End

The.End

This too shall pass
May 18, 2019
80
I am a Half-black half something else (not white) male.

I'm a black woman on this site

This made me giggle too. Is squidward a favourite character of yours?
 
Squiddy

Squiddy

Here Lies My Hopes And Dreams
Sep 4, 2019
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I am a Half-black half something else (not white) male.



This made me giggle too. Is squidward a favourite character of yours?
Yeah he is :) I relate to him a lot
 
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The.End

The.End

This too shall pass
May 18, 2019
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Yeah he is :) I relate to him a lot

How so if you don't mind me asking. He is such a depressing character, as a kid I always felt so bad for him. Nothing ever goes his way.
 
Squiddy

Squiddy

Here Lies My Hopes And Dreams
Sep 4, 2019
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How so if you don't mind me asking. He is such a depressing character, as a kid I always felt so bad for him. Nothing ever goes his way.
He's constantly miserable and I'm miserable
 
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The.End

The.End

This too shall pass
May 18, 2019
80
He's constantly miserable and I'm miserable

Fair enough. Funny thing is, for the most part I never use to laugh at him or find his situation amusing. I alway thought it was sad. I always wondered what the hell was his purpose for even living. Thinking about now, he's character is quite dark for such a light-hearted kids show.
 
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Squiddy

Squiddy

Here Lies My Hopes And Dreams
Sep 4, 2019
5,903
Fair enough. Funny thing is, for the most part I never use to laugh at him or find his situation amusing. I alway thought it was sad. I always wondered what the hell was his purpose for even living. Thinking about now, he's character is quite dark for such a light-hearted kids show.
Yeah, his character is
 
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Painpleasure

Painpleasure

Student
Apr 9, 2019
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I am not black but I find mixed race babies very adorable :heart:. Sorry if this is offensive to anyone
 
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Sweet emotion

Sweet emotion

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Sep 14, 2019
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Hey what am I? Chopped liver? Haha
 
RayoSinSol

RayoSinSol

I can’t ignore the abyss. It is real.
Mar 26, 2020
108
I am a Black male from the southeastern US, and I believe I may understand where you're coming from (if anyone is still looking at this thread. I know it's old AF).

I have a lot of views and mannerisms that have caused me to feel like an anomaly my whole life. It definitely contributes to the reason I want to "catch the bus."

I think that a lot of Black communities such as Black churches and social groups can be very insulative against feelings of isolation...unless you're an outsider within those communities, in which case being Black, in my opinion, begins to have the opposite effect and it becomes really easy to snowball into isolation if you can't find a place in the communities you're supposed to be able to fit into most.

I grew up most of my childhood to adolescence bussing from my predominantly Black neighborhood to magnet schools in my area, around mostly upper to upper-middle class White and Asian kids. The way I speak has very much been shaped by the people I spent those years around. That brings us to Strike One - the way I sound is constantly getting me comments of "so where are you from?" and all kinds of probing questions to try to uncover if the way I speak is real or just an impression.

It constantly makes me feel like a freak when people ask those kinds of questions and sometimes I want to change the way I speak to get comments like that less, but then I WOULD be doing an impression, and that just feels forced and insulting to both myself and anyone I'm doing that around.

Strike Two: I'm gay and fairly gender non-conforming, although I tend to do my best to not really be...clocked as effeminate in public. People who don't understand want to tell you "just be yourself" and shit like that, but that just doesn't really fly around here, where I live currently, unless you really have tough skin, which I don't.

I really...really don't. In fact, I have an anxiety disorder, which is actually the biggest reason I'm on this forum.

I can try to ignore the way people will, for example, talk about me within earshot like I can't even hear them, or make subtle comments about how different I seem from most other (Black) men, but my brain doesn't really work that way. I try to block things out and it usually just results in it getting even more trapped in a loop in my thoughts.

Strike Three: I'm personally not religious, and actually kind of averse to organized religion because of the psychological torment Christianity caused me growing up, so, personally, the one place at the center of the Black community where everyone is supposed to be able to go and feel a sense of belonging...doesn't really work for me.
I could go to churches just for the sake of social connection, I guess, but even that would require a lot of nodding and smiling and doublespeak to pretend like I belong.

I've been considering trying out a Unitarian church or some other progressive church near where I live, but I always just procrastinate every Sunday.

A lot of factors have set me up to be pretty out of place in the places that I'm supposed to belong most, but it's not like I can just ignore my race entirely, as much as maybe well-meaning non-Black people may want to suggest you should. I see my race (and physical gender), and everyone I meet sees my race (and gender), too, and it does change the ways people will potentially interact with me, beyond just the potential for negative discrimination. Especially since I live in the South, in a predominantly Black area.

No matter where I go, people will filter their experience of me first through my appearance, just like for anyone else. There are ways people project their expectations of who you are - what you're gonna think, how you're gonna act - on you based, on their learned perceptual biases, filtering into their first impressions, and then expanding from that.

Depending on how open-minded each individual person is, you might find people that will project less obnoxious shit on you than others, but I can always tell that people treat me differently than they would if I were a Black woman, or a White man, or something else, and I often feel pretty trapped in the norms that I constantly have projected onto me from other people I meet on a daily basis. They're not necessarily bad norms, but they're the norms most people have internalized and expect others around them to follow.

Doesn't help that I've recently moved from a fairly progressive, cosmopolitan, mid-size city...into a town in the middle of the country, to be with my current partner. So, I hate to say it, but people around here tend to be a few degrees more narrow-minded in general than where I come from.

So, yeah, very long post short, I can relate. I think it would be very interesting to see more data collected on the occurrence of suicidality in African-Americans as you go up the scale on factors like education level, demographic makeup of a person's place of origin, sexuality, gender identity, religion and so forth. I think there are a lot more people who are Black and feel pretty isolated than studies tend to focus on.

Even scientific research can be biased, based on what researchers, themselves, believe they've perceived in their own experiences and, thus, tend to look out for more in their studies. I think Black experiences like mine may be heavily overlooked currently.
 
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Pisceslilith

Pisceslilith

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Hiiiiiii
 
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