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booray

Can’t do this anymore
Jan 28, 2021
394
That's something I find myself doing a lot, and I suppose it's because I'm looking for some kind of affirmation of my own desire to ctb. Is it just me being morbid or do any of you find yourselves doing this?

Here in the US, it seems that news coverage of suicides is heavily focused on kids who've been bullied at school. I'm 59, and when I was growing up, I don't ever recall such a thing happening, whereas now it seems pretty common. Not to say that bullying didn't happen, but it certainly seems more brutal today in that it results in so many teens and even pre-teens taking their own lives. Or maybe it was hushed up in the past and today there's just more awareness? I tend to think not, though, as I believe that the internet has elevated bullying to a whole new level. What are your thoughts on this?

Another thing I've noticed is that suicides of adults, on the other hand, do not seem to receive the same level of media coverage unless they are done in a public setting, such as ctb by jumping from bridges, tall buildings, or parking garages. Or by throwing themselves in front of trains, though this method doesn't seem to me to occur as much here as in other parts of the world, except in NYC where subway suicides are not uncommon. Otherwise, if it concerns the suicide of a person who is in the public eye, but ctbs in a private setting, the coverage usually doesn't specify the method, as in the recent suicides of Stella Tennant and Tommy Raskin. I suppose this is to discourage copycat suicides, such as happened after the deaths of Robin Williams, Kate Spade, and Anthony Bourdain, all of whom died by hanging. In the case of Robin Williams, there was a very detailed description in the media of how he achieved a partial hanging using a belt. What are your thoughts/observations on this?

Another interesting thing I've noticed is the prevalence of murder-suicides, especially here in the US, where gun ownership is apparently so common that it's truly frightening IMO. Practically every single day, there is a story somewhere in the US of someone being shot, usually a woman by her husband, who then turns the gun on himself. Very rarely is it the other way around. Earlier this week, there was a story from Pennsylvania of neighbors who were having a dispute over snow shoveling with one man gunning down a married couple who lived next door because they were shoveling snow onto his property. Then there are the murder-suicides of whole families, usually by the fathers, as in the recent case of an Indian-American family in Pennsylvania. But there are also many instances in which the mother is the perpetrator, most always when the father is absent. In December, a clearly mentally ill mother in West Virginia shot all five of her children and step-children dead before turning the gun on herself and burning down their house. And here in Boston last year, a mother drove to the top of a parking garage on Christmas morning and threw her two young children off the top before joining them. I have to wonder what drives a person to take others along with them when they decide to ctb. Clearly, in the case of husbands and wives, this is most likely the culmination of a history of marital discord and spousal abuse. But in the case of innocent children, one has to wonder what drove them to do such a horrible thing.

My last observation on suicide news is the particularly interesting way in which it's covered in the U.K., and here I am referring specifically to the Mirror, which typically provides a very touching story of the person and the often tragic details of what drove them to ctb. Or, if the particular motives are not known, then the story usually focuses on how out of character it was that this person, who is often described as being the life of the party, would do such a thing. This detailed level of coverage seems to apply to people of all ages, not just teenagers. Hanging seems to be a very common method as does jumping in front of trains. I'm guessing this is due to the limited availability of guns. There's a restaurant in London called the Coq d'Argent with a roof terrace that has seen seven suicides, including some rather famous people, and only recently have they installed barriers. Of course, there are many stories of people who ctb at Beachy Head. I don't know of a similar hotspot here in the US that is a natural feature. Maybe the Grand Canyon, but I found only one instance of a suicide there in recent years, though there have been plenty of deaths by selfie, which are clearly unintended but unfortunately pretty common among self-obsessed people around the world, especially in India it seems.

I know that I'm oftentimes bored because I find it hard to get out of bed being as depressed as I am, but do any of you share my morbid fascination? Whether you do or not, feel free to share your own observations.
 
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FTL.Wanderer

Enlightened
May 31, 2018
1,782
I've visited sites that focus on discussing... suicide, but i haven't yet Googled recent suicides. If I catch a story about suicide (usually has to be a celebrity or a young person--you're right), I'll read it eagerly. Because, other than here, it's one of the only indirect discussions I can experience about suicide that isn't an overt public service announcement. Even so, these stories are usually suffused with opinions about supposed mental health issues that drove the sufferer to suicide. There's so much propaganda in nearly all publications on suicide that it's rarely worth it to read the general press articles. :/
 
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SuicidallyCurious

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Dec 20, 2020
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Internet is giving the young today access to knowledge that most reasonable observers would conclude points to a very bleak collective future. Info about War crimes , genocides , etc. happening NOW are available with a few quick clicks on Wikipedia. I think previous pre internet gens were much more easily suckered into the 9-5 pretend all is well system because of no access to such large scale truths. They could watch Star Trek re runs and that and other forms of corporate media pacification would keep them on the treadmill until old age.

I think the suicide rate for the young is going to keep going up.though Some will tough it out to try to enjoy for awhile where they can
 
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booray

Can’t do this anymore
Jan 28, 2021
394
Internet is giving the young today access to knowledge that most reasonable observers would conclude points to a very bleak collective future. Info about War crimes , genocides , etc. happening NOW are available with a few quick clicks on Wikipedia. I think previous pre internet gens were much more easily suckered into the 9-5 pretend all is well system because of no access to such large scale truths. They could watch Star Trek re runs and that and other forms of corporate media pacification would keep them on the treadmill until old age.

I think the suicide rate for the young is going to keep going up.though Some will tough it out to try to enjoy for awhile where they can

I believe you are correct. Kids back in the day were much more innocent than they are now. We were blissfully unaware of true evil in the world. I think, but I'm not entirely positive, that most teens who ctb do so by hanging. It wouldn't be my method, but two things stick out in my mind. First, how have they figured out how to hang themselves at all, especially when so many on here, who are presumably adults but not that much older, can't seem to get the hang of it (pun intended)? Second, there seem to be so many teens and even some kids as young as 8 or 9 yo, who successfully ctb that it boggles my mind as to how they seem to so easily overcome their SI. Do you think it's because their minds are not fully developed and they don't fully realize that this will be their last act? Or could it be that they don't fully intend to ctb, but rather wish to bring attention to their plight, in other words, a suicidal gesture?
 
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theresonlyonewayout

theresonlyonewayout

Student
Jan 31, 2021
121
Yes I do this but they are very hard to find here. People preach about how suicide should be spoken about and 'don't be ashamed' get professional help blah blah blah. But when it does happen it gets all hushed up like some controversial secret in the 1800's that would destroy the family name if it got out - under some rubbish rule that suicidal people are so manipulated/dumb/impulsive or powerless that if we read it we will do it. It can't be both - it's either accepted or not.

And yes it's always so and so was the life and soul, so happy etc never well he/she was a miserable shit living a crap life and it's what they wanted so we're all glad they're at peace. It usually has some distraught relative saying 'I can't believe they did that' which is usually what's said after someone is outted as a serial killer or some other heinous criminal. For example - Harold Shipman - oh he looks so nice, I can't believe he did that. Suggests to me that it is still seen as taboo, wrong and criminal. Just my thoughts tho - based on demographics in this country.
 
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BlackCatTalk

BlackCatTalk

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Apr 28, 2019
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I olny search bout the resources and the fiability of this
 
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death137

death137

miserable
Jun 25, 2020
1,166
I sometimes do but there were times in the past where I do it like every single day especially in the year 2016 and 2017. I used (still do although little) to google on image and news search about suicide by "x" method or country or gender or age, etc. I really admire those who ctb especially those who are very young or used violent methods.

I remember reading about a very young girl (13 or 12 age) suicide on google news on March 22, 2017. It was my birthday and I was planning to ctb within some minutes. I don't know for sure if she died that day or a day before that but I remember being very motivated by it. I'm sure if they hadn't found my rope I would have been dead for good that day. I never regained my great determination to ctb after that day but I hope I do soon.

Nowadays I'm more into suicide and other gore videos. I used to be very terrified but now I'm numb.
 
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the_final_countdown

Specialist
Dec 29, 2020
337
I search for death. People dying of cancer. People with chronic illness.

I don't understand but it comforts me. Not their suffering. I don't take pleasure in it.

They understand. I understand. We understand each other.

I can't stand the world of the living. I don't belong there. There's only suffering for me.

But people in Hell. Their loss and grief. I can swim in those waters.
 
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Avyn

Experienced
Jan 27, 2021
223
I used to watch videos about suicide and of people suiciding, but not reading news articles about it. I don't care about the people that kill themselves, celebrity or not, I just care about the method and how they pulled it off. So that once I am ready, I can do it without hopefully failing and too much pain
 
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NegativeSymptoms

NegativeSymptoms

trying to recover
Sep 4, 2019
157
Yes, I frequently search for local suicide news as an inspiration: if they could do it, then I can too.
 
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faex42

faex42

Experienced
Oct 19, 2018
213
I no longer search for articles but I read every media story that I come across about someone who committed suicide. Unless the person was an abuser I always feels solidarity and a little jeaousy of those who were successful.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,737
Yes. I think seeing that many other people have done it, makes me feel more confident that I can overcome the SI and do it myself. The large amount of articles show that it is possible. Looking at articles shows me how cruel this world is and how much suffering there is that people have faced in their lives.
 
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Pure

Specialist
Jun 29, 2021
366
Yes, I used to be obsessed with looking up suicides of a certain river I was planning on ctb-ing in.

Now, only articles I read are about ss. Idk why bc they infuriate me on how they refuse to take personal responsibility for their children.

I like watching YouTube videos of suicide attempts. I'm fucked up like that. I don't like seeing videos of completed exits bc I think it's bad form to see dead people especially in the fucked up manner most suicided bodies are.
 
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dyingalone123

Experienced
Sep 8, 2021
211
I do this all the time. I've scoped out three hotels I can jump from where previous people have succeeded. My SI is just too strong right now.
 
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