Anyone else worried about SN method?

[natali4]

So when I first joined SS, SN seemed like this foolproof method if done correctly. It seemed like people who failed either did not follow the method properly in someway, or called for help/were found. Now I see all these new threads of SN failing, and people having horrible side effects after failure. I am really worried because this is my only option.

 

[lostmylove]

You've got to understand. I'm not being critical here but people attempt in conditions that give them potential to mess up.

Either because they needed to do it for cry for help or impulsive.

The ones that pass away are the ones that you don't hear from.

If you do everything properly there will be no failure.

People here are depressed, desperate and unstable and warn down with low energy. This contributes more than the method failing.

 

[befree]

I bought a larger quantity of SN, but will not use it anymore. Whenever the body does not get enough oxygen, this can lead to permanent brain damage if it fails. I would now tend to use Oxycodon and Fentanyl. And unlike N, customs is not involved when I order it from the EU.

 

[natali4]

I bought a larger quantity of SN, but will not use it anymore. Whenever the body does not get enough oxygen, this can lead to permanent brain damage if it fails. I would now tend to use Oxycodon and Fentanyl. And unlike N, customs is not involved when I order it from the EU.

Are there any threads or reports of brain damage from failed SN?

 

[befree]

Yes, someone posted infos about it just 2 days ago. Autopsies have shown that the same brain damage occurs as with carbon monoxid.

 

[houseofleaves]

i'm literally begging for THIS to be true

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/chance-of-brain-damage-by-sn-is-low-but-possible.78214/

 

[Shu]

Yes, someone posted infos about it just 2 days ago. Autopsies have shown that the same brain damage occurs as with carbon monoxid.

Evidence?

 

[natali4]

I think we cannot be 100% sure but in my opinion it all comes down to the person's state of mind. As @lostmylove said, there are more chances of making mistakes and failing when one is going through strong emotions and tries to ctb out of desperation.

 

[befree]

Ask the person who postad it.

However what houseofleaves postet does not convince me. SN is too risky. Better buy Oxy. and Fent.

 

[houseofleaves]

Ask the person who postad it.

However what houseofleaves postet does not convince me. SN is too risky. Better buy Oxy. and Fent.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn-how-to-get-to-hospital-fast.74903/

 

[Judy Garland]

Ask the person who postad it.

However what houseofleaves postet does not convince me. SN is too risky. Better buy Oxy. and Fent.

Ask the person who postad it.

However what houseofleaves postet does not convince me. SN is too risky. Better buy Oxy. and Fent.

Seriously? You WILL have brain damage if you try to overdose on Oxy and Fent if you survive (unless someone finds you and gives you narcan). How is THAT not risky. Ridiculous.

 

[Freedomindeath4me]

Doesn't anything done that causes harm to the point of death have a possibility of causing brain damage if survived?

 

[shrek34]

So when I first joined SS, SN seemed like this foolproof method if done correctly. It seemed like people who failed either did not follow the method properly in someway, or called for help/were found. Now I see all these new threads of SN failing, and people having horrible side effects after failure. I am really worried because this is my only option.

I don't know where this sudden loss of confidence of SN came from, but it's pretty much unfounded. It's one of the safest methods in terms of potential for permanent damage if it fails. Where are all these new threads with horrible side effects?

 

[sunny/omori]

Doesn't anything done that causes harm to the point of death have a possibility of causing brain damage if survived?

Exactly. The realibilty of the method and not be found too early is what really matters.

I don't know where this sudden loss of confidence of SN came from, but it's pretty much unfounded. It's one of the safest methods in terms of potential for permanent damage if it fails. Where are all these new threads with horrible side effects?

In one thread some users claimed that you will have no sequela if you call ambulance right after taking SN. I disputed that.

 

[Judy Garland]

I don't know where this sudden loss of confidence of SN came from, but it's pretty much unfounded. It's one of the safest methods in terms of potential for permanent damage if it fails. Where are all these new threads with horrible side effects?

Thank you!

Exactly. The realibilty of the method and not be found too early is what really matters.

In one thread some users claimed that you will have no sequela if you call ambulance right after taking SN. I disputed that.

What is "sequela"?

 

[shrek34]

Exactly. The realibilty of the method and not be found too early is what really matters.

In one thread some users claimed that you will have no sequela if you call ambulance right after taking SN. I disputed that.

It's always possible you will have long lasting problems with any method, but yeah I agree there's always a chance that it can cause some damage, but it's probably very very rare.

 

[headspin]

I bought a larger quantity of SN, but will not use it anymore. Whenever the body does not get enough oxygen, this can lead to permanent brain damage if it fails. I would now tend to use Oxycodon and Fentanyl. And unlike N, customs is not involved when I order it from the EU.

How are you able to get Fentanyl ? I would really prefer that....

Ask the person who postad it.

However what houseofleaves postet does not convince me. SN is too risky. Better buy Oxy. and Fent.

How can I get Oxy and Fent?

 

[befree]

headspin, it´s not possible to send you a PM.

 

[SofterSoftest]

I was stupid enough to wait to purchase N from D, because my SO is always home and would've definitely intercepted the package (he is leaving to see family in early May, which is when I was hoping to make my purchase). Now that D is apparently no longer supplying, SN seems like my only option. I agree that it seems awful... I just hope I can tolerate it and keep it down long enough to CTB. I have meto and reliable SN, but it seems that even with those safeguards, SN is a crapshoot. Everyone says it's pretty much foolproof, but I think when your heart is racing and you are feeling horribly nauseous, those factors would naturally drive up SI.

 

[sunny/omori]

I was stupid enough to wait to purchase N from D, because my SO is always home and would've definitely intercepted the package (he is leaving to see family in early May, which is when I was hoping to make my purchase). Now that D is apparently no longer supplying, SN seems like my only option. I agree that it seems awful... I just hope I can tolerate it and keep it down long enough to CTB. I have meto and reliable SN, but it seems that even with those safeguards, SN is a crapshoot. Everyone says it's pretty much foolproof, but I think when your heart is racing and you are feeling horribly nauseous, those factors would naturally drive up SI.

I think the same. It is a russian roulette. I will try to get N by all means. Only if i cant get it i will use SN.

 

[DyingMiND]

I bought a larger quantity of SN, but will not use it anymore. Whenever the body does not get enough oxygen, this can lead to permanent brain damage if it fails. I would now tend to use Oxycodon and Fentanyl. And unlike N, customs is not involved when I order it from the EU.

I think you're in a good, unique position that others would rather be in.

 

[Shu]

Yes, someone posted infos about it just 2 days ago. Autopsies have shown that the same brain damage occurs as with carbon monoxid.

This is after you are dead.. this is way after the nitric oxide isn't acting as a nueroprotectant anymore.. this wasn't a brain scan of someone who was saved in the right amount of time.. it was an autopsy..

 

[chocolatebar]

I was always worried, but it's still my best shot for a non aggressive death.

I won't do it when in despair or in an unsafe environment and I won't try to outsmart the method. This will greatly reduce chances of failure

 

[its-about-time]

Part of dying is, believe it or not, your brain dying along with the rest of your organs… some methods immediately begin to kill your brain by starving it of oxygen (exit bag, hanging, carbon monoxide, etc). SN has the odd trait of not targeting your brain immediately. Your body knows how to compensate for it for awhile. You pass out from the low blood pressure. While you're unconscious, your oxygen-deprived organs eventually can no longer compensate to protect your brain, and your brain eventually enters the "get damaged then die" zone. Seems from the many articles I've read that this is one of the later stages. Medics have attempted to treat and save SN poisoning attempts but not succeeded when enough time has passed since ingestion. Seems like the window for survival is relatively soon after ingestion, assuming proper treatment. Do more research and realize how fear-mongering you're being through your lack of education on the topic. Do your research on Google with reputable sources like pubMed, not from the stories posted here.

 

[dustyfurcollector]

Part of dying is, believe it or not, your brain dying along with the rest of your organs… some methods immediately begin to kill your brain by starving it of oxygen (exit bag, hanging, carbon monoxide, etc). SN has the odd trait of not targeting your brain immediately. Your body knows how to compensate for it for awhile. You pass out from the low blood pressure. While you're unconscious, your oxygen-deprived organs eventually can no longer compensate to protect your brain, and your brain eventually enters the "get damaged then die" zone. Seems from the many articles I've read that this is one of the later stages. Medics have attempted to treat and save SN poisoning attempts but not succeeded when enough time has passed since ingestion. Seems like the window for survival is relatively soon after ingestion, assuming proper treatment. Do more research and realize how fear-mongering you're being through your lack of education on the topic. Do your research on Google with reputable sources like pubMed, not from the stories posted here.

Sorry this is so late and I don't know how I've missed all these new threads Abt sn failing and damage done. I trust Stan. Why have we gotten away from Stan's method

 

[Shu]

Sorry this is so late and I don't know how I've missed all these new threads Abt sn failing and damage done. I trust Stan. Why have we gotten away from Stan's method

The PPeH is changing information regarding the method

 

[dustyfurcollector]

The PPeH is changing information regarding the method

Really? I didn't see anything that contradicted with his method in the August or November(?) version. Is there a newer version?

 

[wljourney]

Really? I didn't see anything that contradicted with his method in the August or November(?) version. Is there a newer version?

There is an April version of the PPeH but the method is still one of those described and has a fairly high rating. That has not changed. However iirc the dose was adjusted up for those w higher body weight and prior taking of anti acids is not required anymore.

TBH it's still my Plan B after N. It sounds much easier than most of the other methods and possession of SN is not illegal.

 

[dustyfurcollector]

There is an April version of the PPeH but the method is still one of those described and has a fairly high rating. That has not changed. However iirc the dose was adjusted up for those w higher body weight and prior taking of anti acids is not required anymore.

TBH it's still my Plan B after N. It sounds much easier than most of the other methods and possession of SN is not illegal.

Thanks. I'd planned on a higher than recommended dose anyway bc I'm secretly overweight from anti depressants. I'll go look for the newer version. I'm just confused by all these new bad reviews. I mean Stan used it and it worked for him.

Thanks. I'd planned on a higher than recommended dose anyway bc I'm secretly overweight from anti depressants. I'll go look for the newer version. I'm just confused by all these new bad reviews. I mean Stan used it and it worked for him.

*Severely

 

[wljourney]

Thanks. I'd planned on a higher than recommended dose anyway bc I'm secretly overweight from anti depressants. I'll go look for the newer version. I'm just confused by all these new bad reviews. I mean Stan used it and it worked for him.

*Severely

There are also plenty of successful goodbye threads. Quite a few just over the last few days.
@Jaegerist123 just yesterday and @Imissyoumydarling this past week too.

Edit: I know Jaegerist used SN. I believe Imissyou did too.