Anyone else lie to their doctors?

[ImSoTired]

Since I was hospitalized after my last attempt, I've found my doctors, therapist, etc. have been asking every single day if I'm having any suicidal thoughts or plans, thoughts/plans of hurting myself, access to shit. They're so annoying...

I lie every single time, I would rather continue lying until I'm dead than be locked back up in that Hell hole honestly...

I know I can't be the only one dealing with this, tell me there are others!! Is there a way to tell them to stop asking me everyday??

 

[HelensNepenthe]

Whenever asked I'm always lying about my mental health. A BA is imminent if you slip up.

 

[rntmss]

I lied my pants off to get out of the hospital last year. I honestly think most doctors or psychiatrists mean well... but where I'm from the powers they get when you're deemed to have a mental illness are pretty extreme. I never want to hear the phrase "Form One" ever again in my life. Pretty much guaranteed to be held for the entire 72 hours regardless of what you say.

 

[OneBigBlur]

I use to just lie and got tired of it. I'd just be honest and tell them that you aren't doing any more risk assessments from now on and that they need to respect it.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I would say to them, "I'm curious why you ask me every time I see you."

Get them to explain.

Then state a boundary, something like, 'I find it intrusive. I come to you with a specific issue, and that is what I want to focus on. I remind you that I do not have to earn your trust, it is your job to earn mine. So I'm setting a boundary: Stop asking."

Then if they do it the next time, I would say, "I recall that last time I told you it was intrusive and I set a boundary that you stop asking. I am happy to remind you this once as I realize it is something new. After this, I trust you will remember."

Then the next time, make eye contact, say nothing, and wait for them to catch on.

Personally, I would practice this a lot until i felt comfortable and confident to do it irl.

 

[k75]

I tell them I have thoughts, but I never admit to plans. I tell them I don't intend to act on the urges and that they scare me. This lets me talk about it without fear of being sectioned.

I feel like it's important to at least be honest about feeling like this, because I want to make sure I'm getting appropriate treatment. It's a waste of everyone's time and isn't helping me at all otherwise.

 

[Sk1n1M1n]

but the system is ridiculous, they give us meaningless advice that doesn't help the situation at all, they opt for the least restrictive option which often be the worse, we are not taken seriously and system is packed full of wannabes or very short term patients with temporary problems. there are too many people that abuse the system and pretend to be unwell., just because they are bored or have had enough of the dole office.

 

[UpandDownPrincess]

I lie to people I don't trust.

When I had a psychiatrist that I trusted, I told him the truth.

It did result in my being sectioned once, and only once, but I would have been dead within hours if he had not done it.

He was right to do it and I trusted him to make that decision for me. I certainly could not have been trusted, and it really wasn't a good time to ctb.

 

[Kikoo Loool]

Of course, I always denegated having suividal thoughts.

 

[catfletcher]

I'm wary of what I say. Because I'm suffering from perinatal depression and anxiety, I'm being monitored very closely by a few different people and asked a lot about any suicidal thoughts. During an argument, I told my husband how I was feeling on Saturday and then went out to clear my head. Got picked up by the police a few hours later and detained on a section 136 (short term police section to take me to a place of safety). The people who assessed me let me come straight home. I'm now being given a lot of intensive support. They have talked about an admission, but I don't want this. If things do continue to deteriorate to where I was at immediate risk of CTB, I'd only ever want a voluntary admission, so am very cagey about sharing my true thoughts. Being in a locked room for 90 minutes on Saturday (my first experience of this) was bad enough. I do not want to be on a proper section.
I absolutely hate how trapped I am feeling in my own thoughts and obsessions. The only thing that is helping at the moment is researching and planning methods. This forum is helping me by giving my thoughts an outlet, but my absolute obsession with my own death is exhausting and not right. I want help but I don't know what that help looks like, so I'm stuck in limbo.

 

[Ghost2211]

Yes, I have to lie. I have kids in the house, and therapist has already mentioned cps and well checks when si comes up. She knows about it, but I have to massively underplay it.

 

[Lunaloveflood]

Yes, i made the mistake once to tell a psychologist about my suicidal thought and he proposed me to go to a daily hospital. I was desperate so i thought it would help. Turn out the psychiatrist was not really good. She added me days if i'd just cry during a session(she was desperately trying to put me in all week except the weekend bc it's closed) I don't know what would've had happened if I was honest with her. The hospital was very boring and diminishing patient so I hated it and wanted to get out of it as soon as possible by saying I was feeling really good. But it didn't even work out so I left and never come back (thank god I was only in day time )

I secretly think they needed more people in for the subvention or something like that because the last month I was coming in with a big smile talking about how much i love life, and she still wanted me to be in the hospital as many days has possible even if I was struggling to graduate high school at the same time.

 

[justfloating]

Since I was hospitalized after my last attempt, I've found my doctors, therapist, etc. have been asking every single day if I'm having any suicidal thoughts or plans, thoughts/plans of hurting myself, access to shit. They're so annoying...

I lie every single time, I would rather continue lying until I'm dead than be locked back up in that Hell hole honestly...

I know I can't be the only one dealing with this, tell me there are others!! Is there a way to tell them to stop asking me everyday??

I've always been honest with my doctors but they don't give a shit so its always worked out for me

 

[Lady Lazarus 2020]

I would say to them, "I'm curious why you ask me every time I see you."

Get them to explain.

Then state a boundary, something like, 'I find it intrusive. I come to you with a specific issue, and that is what I want to focus on. I remind you that I do not have to earn your trust, it is your job to earn mine. So I'm setting a boundary: Stop asking."

Then if they do it the next time, I would say, "I recall that last time I told you it was intrusive and I set a boundary that you stop asking. I am happy to remind you this once as I realize it is something new. After this, I trust you will remember."

Then the next time, make eye contact, say nothing, and wait for them to catch on.

Personally, I would practice this a lot until i felt comfortable and confident to do it irl.

badass!
I definitely lie.

 

[Dannyboy]

I do lie, partially. But i have been more open with my doctor lately, than what i usually am. That might be because i am becoming more suicidal every day, but she still is a sweetheart and respects me and my thoughts.

 

[Anon2662]

All the time. Any time I have gotten even close to telling the truth about my suicidal thoughts, it's resulted in police or hospitals. Traumatic for me and just makes my MH worse. Easier to just deny it all for me.. plus the professionals can't be trusted for me :(

 

[Deleted member 15256]

"Everybody lies."
When I told my suicidal plans to my therapist, honestly looking for help, she freaked a little and ended our session early (never spent money on online therapy again).
The one I go now is good, too good... And I don't want to end up hospitalized.
What a mess

 

[Grandexit]

Yep, I'm refilling pills I never plan to take, and try to think of things to say to fill up my sessions. I would never breathe a word about my "supply kit". I think it's starting to get obvious about how I have stopped talking about future plans. But never in a hundred years would I say anything that would have me caged in a psychiatric hospital.

 

[Mm80]

Are you still in hospital? If not can you not just refuse the services and not attend?
I dont know how other countries work, im in the uk. I think there is a slight myth that if you admit to suicidal thoughts or plans that you will be sectioned. I have told docs and psychiatrists in details of what i have and what i will do if i have had enough.
I think what they are assessing is imminent danger to yourself or others. That would result in sectioning as they couldnt ignore it. Please correct me if im wrong in the uk.
I personally dont feel paranoid or suspicious of docs or psychiatrists. I dont think they are actively seeking to section people. The nhs is in crisis and short of psychiatric beds. They simply have a pro life view and havent experienced what most have on here. And i think some of the more experienced ones will not admit it, but will respect your suffering and the fact that they have tried there best.
Thanks

 

[Anon2662]

Are you still in hospital? If not can you not just refuse the services and not attend?
I dont know how other countries work, im in the uk. I think there is a slight myth that if you admit to suicidal thoughts or plans that you will be sectioned. I have told docs and psychiatrists in details of what i have and what i will do if i have had enough.
I think what they are assessing is imminent danger to yourself or others. That would result in sectioning as they couldnt ignore it. Please correct me if im wrong in the uk.
I personally dont feel paranoid or suspicious of docs or psychiatrists. I dont think they are actively seeking to section people. The nhs is in crisis and short of psychiatric beds. They simply have a pro life view and havent experienced what most have on here. And i think some of the more experienced ones will not admit it, but will respect your suffering and the fact that they have tried there best.
Thanks

that's not my experience with them. Was taken to A&E for a sprained wrist and panic attack before and ended up sectioned even after telling them I wasn't suicidal. Ended up running out in a panic and having the police searching for me and smashing my front door down. All for a panic attack which I have regularly. I have upset the government though so won't be the same for everyone

 

[Mm80]

that's not my experience with them. Was taken to A&E for a sprained wrist and panic attack before and ended up sectioned even after telling them I wasn't suicidal. Ended up running out in a panic and having the police searching for me and smashing my front door down. All for a panic attack which I have regularly. I have upset the government though so won't be the same for everyone

Uk? What did you tell tgem caused your wrist sprain. Must have been mental health related to section you? Sorry for your experience.

 

[Anon2662]

Uk? What did you tell tgem caused your wrist sprain. Must have been mental health related to section you? Sorry for your experience.

Yeah uk. No I fell over having a panic attack while out.. the paramedics said I needed to go get my wrist looked at and then because I had a panic attack and have MH problems the MH team came to see me too and sectioned me. All for a panic attack! I point blank told them I wasn't suicidal. (I lied but still.. ) They planned it all tbf and I don't trust them at all

 

[Xena87]

Girl you have some good Dr's. Ive made several suicide attempts, I feel suicidal most of the time and I used to be sooo open with my Dr's about this...and they honest to god couldn't give a shit. You need to move to Bedford, UK, if you Want Dr's who couldn't give a fuck whether you wish to die or not

 

[Mm80]

Girl you have some good Dr's. Ive made several suicide attempts, I feel suicidal most of the time and I used to be sooo open with my Dr's about this...and they honest to god couldn't give a shit. You need to move to Bedford, UK, if you Want Dr's who couldn't give a fuck whether you wish to die or not

Am i wrong for finding this funny? Lets all move to bedford and we will be left alone. Sorry.

 

[Anon2662]

Girl you have some good Dr's. Ive made several suicide attempts, I feel suicidal most of the time and I used to be sooo open with my Dr's about this...and they honest to god couldn't give a shit. You need to move to Bedford, UK, if you Want Dr's who couldn't give a fuck whether you wish to die or not

No I have drs who have an agenda from higher orders unfortunately.. it's not that they give a shit.. :( maybe I should move to Bedford! Haha.. I'm sure it's a hell of a lot better than where I am in the UK now! although it's still the same government I'm sure operatives would have a way of following me.

 

[Goaway]

Last year I spent Christmas locked up after my girlfriend reported that I was suicidal. The police came a took me away on Christmas eve. I was so angry with the world and everyone in it. I told the Dr's everything and anything that they wanted to hear just to get out of that hell hole. It was the worst week of my life. So, yes, i have lied to my Dr's and would do it again.
Last year I spent Christmas locked up after my girlfriend reported that I was suicidal. The police came a took me away on Christmas eve. I was so angry with the world and everyone in it. I told the Dr's everything and anything that they wanted to hear just to get out of that hell hole. It was the worst week of my life. So, yes, i have lied to my Dr's and would do it again.

 

[Xena87]

But TBH, I'm a mixed race transwoman of colour from a council estate so I'm used to having the entire world against me!

Am i wrong for finding this funny? Lets all move to bedford and we will be left alone. Sorry.

You have to laugh about it really or you'd cry at how atrocious and how it has affected my life and made me extremely ill. TBH if I had a gun I would kill them all.

No I have drs who have an agenda from higher orders unfortunately.. it's not that they give a shit.. :( maybe I should move to Bedford! Haha.. I'm sure it's a hell of a lot better than where I am in the UK now! although it's still the same government I'm sure operatives would have a way of following me.

All Dr's have an agenda. Dr's, nurses, COPS are all connected and very evil. I have the MI5 tailing me wherever I go. They've tapped my phone and bugged my house. When I was institutionalised I was dragged into a room and they used hypnosis mind control on me, tried to murder me in the damn hospital and all the staff ie: Dr's, nurses ect found it hysterical. Basically, they make it very obvious to me they're highly disappointed I'm still alive and I'm sure they'll pop open the champers when I finally CTB. Trust me you don't want to be me! A friend, even one who is pretending to care is nowhere in my life... I would rather have a Dr who pretended to care, not Dr's who make it known they want me dead lol

 

[Throwmyselfaway]

When I saw the shrink a month ago they asked about the usual stuff. I had agreed that my wife was to be in there because I wouldn't really talk. I was fine with her there. Well the question came up that I knew was coming so I could prepare my statement and reaction. He asked if I ever attempted suicide. I said yes 20 years ago with cutting my wrist. Didn't question it further, seemed pleased I was that honest. He probably will have more questions when I have more appointments. That was my first visit with him. But even seeing my regular doc I lie.

 

[Anon2662]

All Dr's have an agenda. Dr's, nurses, COPS are all connected and very evil. I have the MI5 tailing me wherever I go. They've tapped my phone and bugged my house. When I was institutionalised I was dragged into a room and they used hypnosis mind control on me, tried to murder me in the damn hospital and all the staff ie: Dr's, nurses ect found it hysterical. Basically, they make it very obvious to me they're highly disappointed I'm still alive and I'm sure they'll pop open the champers when I finally CTB. Trust me you don't want to be me! A friend, even one who is pretending to care is nowhere in my life... I would rather have a Dr who pretended to care, not Dr's who make it known they want me dead lol

Sounds a lot like what I'm experiencing. Leaving me hidden messages too. I now don't go out so they can't follow me around with their spies. I think they will get a big cash bonus when I die.

 

[Xena87]

Sounds a lot like what I'm experiencing. Leaving me hidden messages too. I now don't go out so they can't follow me around with their spies. I think they will get a big cash bonus when I die.

YES! People then have the nerve to say "Oh you're paranoid" when you tell them what's going on. It's so frustrating because having a mental health history automatically makes people discount everything you have to say. Like you're some stupid crazy mad thing that's not to be listened too. Then you get so fucking angry and lash out they call YOU crazy.