If you aren't hurting yourself or anyone else and you're still able to be productive and social, don't feel guilty for doing it. Maybe instead of every day, you do it every other day, then slowly get to every 3rd or 4th day. That way, you don't give it up (unless you really, really want to give it up completely) and you still get lots of things done and it's not as guilt-heavy for you either.
Productiveness and being social arent things Im capable of but I think thats something entirely out of the addictions control
Ive definitely tried to cut down a lot, it just never seems to work so honestly I would not even know how to begin there
Maybe I lack willpower and I definitely lack self control
Masturbation isn't shameful or wrong, even with porn, it's just pretty time consuming if you're addicted to it. So instead of slaying the beast completely, maybe think about trying to keep it away for 2-4 days at a time.
If you have a normal relationship with masturbation I agree entirely
Theres nothing inherently wrong with it and the only reason I would stop flat-out if I could is because my relationship with it really couldnt be further from healthy
Like I said, it helped land me in the ER, honestly theres still a chance I have permeant tissue damage because of it
And Im a virgin so thankfully I havent had to do it in person, but explaining to people why my dick looks like I jerk off with sandpaper never is easy
I appreciate what youre saying, still
i've porn addiction too. cooming since 5th grade and in these last years i went downward to really sick and degenerate content and switched from short coomings to long edging sessions that waste my already ruined life and frying the brain from excessive stimulation. vanilla doesn't turn me anymore. as for now im on NNN and it gave some sort of momentum to end with this beast.
Yeah, thats exactly the part of it that makes me hate myself- its like any other addiction and that means youre constantly chasing an unattainable high
You start looking at increasing degen porn because thats all that works sometimes and it never stops ramping from there
I just dont want to be that anymore, I really really dont
Ive tried NNN a few times but I lack the control to stop
I get an urge and Im already opening up incognito mode, the whole time reminding myself I said i wouldnt
I find a way to justify it every time, or I just flat out refuse to care until after its done and the guilt hits
there's a methodology to beat porn addiction which is titled the easypeasy method but i've too low attention span to read it consistently without interruptions so i plan just to stick to cold-turkey. it's much easier to finish off addiction when stimuli and in this case sexual cues are removed you might need to avoid any social media esp instagram and tiktok if use, generally you need to avoid all sexual content on the internet, delete apps, accounts, remove bookmarks etc. tbh i don't believe that gradual decreasing of consumption or keeping intervals between sessions even work you need to bring this to conclusion once for all
I have a pdf of that saved somewhere but I lack the attention span too, I never made it very far
I wish I could cold-turkey but I seem incapable of it
I just cant seem to get myself to win over those urges
I only really use tiktok occasionally and my feed is pretty clean of thirst traps so I think Im good there
Honestly there isnt a lot I do that involves anything sexual
I guess I can delete some accounts though... I havent really tried that yet, thats fair
I would recommend to try and start targeting the reasons for why you are ashamed of it, are you watching porn that you don't feel comfortable with when you're not horny? Are you feeling urges to do it in situations that are inappropriate? is it getting in the way of your regular activities? (not the feelings about it, specifically the masturbation itself)
If these conditions aren't met, you likely aren't addicted, you probably just have a high libido. If they are met, therapy and a specific focus on those features may help more than trying to stop altogether.
Theres a lot of content I wish I didnt like, things that gross me out to think about after the fact but in the moment work the best, thats definitely where most of the shame stems from
Sometimes those urges do happen in less than appropriate places, yeah
And yeah, I spend more time jerking off than I do really anything else, often times pausing games Im playing or rushing content just so I can alt-tab and get off for example
And that happens several times a day every day
Its an addiction, Ive known that for awhile yeah
Sharing my experience the one thing that helped was, Detoxing/cleansing my body. I'm done all sorts of cleanse dude. Candida diets. Water fast. Parasite cleanse. Stayed away from sugar that included anything that turned into it. February for most breads pastas etc. Started exercising and doing stretches or walking in nature. Anything to keep myself busy and not just sit around all day and jerk off. Lol.
See, a lot of that is stuff I cant get myself to do anymore because of my increasing depression
I think I *did* jerk it less when I was going on walks but now Im borderline agoraphobic and only leave the house when I need to
The sheer amount of free time I have alone in my room makes it so much harder to quit, I know that for sure, I just cant figure out how to fix that either
Its just an ouroboros of disinterest and low energy I cant escape from
I learned to discipline myself, it was doing a pretty good job until I discovered amphetamines. (The illegal kind) in fucking Eugene, I was doing fine when I was in Ashland. I think it really begun when I was somewhere close to Northern California. Around reading. I've always done with the p*** thing for a very long time but I started began studying a bunch of esoteric and I called text and other spiritual text and realize that masturbating all the time was highly detrimental to My overall sought out development.
Funny, I actually live really close to the Ashland area, too
But the only drug I ever got into was weed personally- and thats a miracle, my dad was on meth constantly growing up so I know that shit can do awful things to a persons mind
Heres hoping we can both get someplace better with it
My advice is to try not to confuse masturbating with porn consumption. Jacking off without porn is actually a lot more enjoyable than I expected it to be. Not optimal, but also far from bad once you get good at it. I personally don't give a shit so i use porn almost all the time, but if you're trying to quit porn it's nice to remember that you don't have to go nofap to do it.
Its a lot of both going hand-in-hand for me
The only times I really have jerked off without porn, someone else was involved so... sexting is arguably just personalized porn in a way, Im not sure that counts as being without
The masturbation is the bigger issue though I guess, without it the porn would fade out too Im sure
I can still appreciate theres an art to a lot of porn
AS long as its not kiddy porn, enjoy, you only live this life once.
Its one of the reasons I dont want to live this life in the first place