Anyone else feel helpline, therapy, etc., are useless?

[Life'sA6itch]

I tried "therapy" but have had bad experiences with either incompetent or self absorbed therapists and gave up after 3 tries with different therapists. One went on and on about politics and religion from the start with no provocation & another told me to pack up and move out of state in our first and only 30 min session because I was having issues with loud weed smoking neighbors whose habits made their way into my apt. That was insane "advice."

I tried one of those helplines where you talk but it doesn't really feel like they're listening or grasping the impacts of traumas put upon you by others, not anything you had a choice in. I didn't choose to have a mother who never said I love you, never said I'm proud of you and never hugged me but always beat me, threatened to beat me and/or cussed at me multiple times weekly if not daily. I never chose to be hit by a supervisor at work. I never chose that my older sister could steal what should have been my $73,333 inheritance or also my younger sister's $73,333 inheritance before we ever knew they existed.

When I called a helpline I felt I was just exposing my pains and it was like they're disconnected, maybe listening, maybe not and when the conversation was over, nothing was better, nothing was changed and I was back to what I wished never was with no palatable way out. I just don't get the point of therapy. Why do I have "work" to do when it's literally the world outside of me assaulting and insulting me?

 

[ma0]

I've been in and out of therapy twice now, and considering the fact I'm here it's pretty obvious nothing's changed.

I've also heard horror stories from helplines, so I can only imagine the shit that goes on there.

 

[donttalktome]

its useless if u have real life problems and a normal untwisted view on them
no therapist will help you with money health debts etc. so its a purely self-introspective thing for people that already have their life in order good enough to even go into therapy
if u dont fall into this category, dont bother

 

[pulleditnearlyoff]

I tried "therapy" but have had bad experiences with either incompetent or self absorbed therapists and gave up after 3 tries with different therapists. One went on and on about politics and religion from the start with no provocation & another told me to pack up and move out of state in our first and only 30 min session because I was having issues with loud weed smoking neighbors whose habits made their way into my apt. That was insane "advice."

I tried one of those helplines where you talk but it doesn't really feel like they're listening or grasping the impacts of traumas put upon you by others, not anything you had a choice in. I didn't choose to have a mother who never said I love you, never said I'm proud of you and never hugged me but always beat me, threatened to beat me and/or cussed at me multiple times weekly if not daily. I never chose to be hit by a supervisor at work. I never chose that my older sister could steal what should have been my $73,333 inheritance or also my younger sister's $73,333 inheritance before we ever knew they existed.

When I called a helpline I felt I was just exposing my pains and it was like they're disconnected, maybe listening, maybe not and when the conversation was over, nothing was better, nothing was changed and I was back to what I wished never was with no palatable way out. I just don't get the point of therapy. Why do I have "work" to do when it's literally the world outside of me assaulting and insulting me?

Ikr! It's just pathetic how bad the MHS are. Never met a psychologist/psychiatrist who helped me. They only made me feel worse most of the time. And like you said, why do we have to change, instead of the bad world and bad people?

 

[mortalityisbadass]

The process of finding a good therapist absolutely sucks ass. I've had a lot of shitty, unhelpful therapists. The good ones that I've found previously only lasted a couple months because of them changing companies, which fucked over my insurance coverage. Other ones were going on stress leave due to COVID.

I've worked with over a dozen therapists, and the way I've found good ones is to kinda vibe check them within the first session or two. Ask about how long they've worked with mentally ill people, what they're specialties are, stuff like that.

I've also found that group therapy and support groups have been helpful if you wanna vent to other people who have similar issues. Those tend to be free or low cost.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Yeah, these things are useless to me because the issue I have with is existence itself but of course therapists, hotlines etc are doing what they do with the automatic assumption that life is beautiful, life is a gift etc. There's no use in trying to tell them that the mechanism of life itself is broken and that there is no harm in choosing to give up because there is no point to any of our existence in the first place. These people act like non existence is a harm to the beings who are dead but that's just illogical.

What would help me is getting access to nembutal or the sacro pod, not some pro life bullshit of life being valuable and that the struggle is worth it. Another thing that would help me is meeting others who acknowledge how shitty existence itself is

 

[cazza82]

I've been in and out of therapy twice now, and considering the fact I'm here it's pretty obvious nothing's changed.

I've also heard horror stories from helplines, so I can only imagine the shit that goes on there.

What horror stories from helplines have you heard

 

[G000pie]

I have mixed feelings about it. Out of the 4 I've had, only one truly listened and helped. That was this year, my last therapist before she left the company maybe 2 months back. She could get me to cathartic cry within minutes, pulled out so much childhood religious trauma and unresolved emotional baggage about my mom... but honestly I wouldn't say it helped my anxiety. Like at all. I still have panic attacks, I still have depressive episodes.

If anything, I think it 1. helped me realize I wasn't the issue. My family was, and my mom especially is a fucking nazi, 2. stop feeling guilty for being disabled and start realizing that I live in a country with a broken system that does not exist to help people like me, that to simply exist is enough and I don't have to "earn" my worth to life, 3. sort of just... mourn the loss of the life I never had growing up and the future I never will have.

I'm ready to kill myself as soon as I get the means, while before I had a lot of things kept inside I just... needed someone to hear. At this point any future therapy sessions are just to keep up an act so nobody in my life suspects anything. It's obvious whenever I talk to therapists they have no fucking idea what to say. My situation is hopeless and the so is the state of the world.

 

[Chr0nicAnhedonic]

I had been in-and-out of therapy my entire adolescence and entirely stopped about 3 years ago. I've run the gamut of treatment options save for drastic ones like TMS/ECT, and none of it helped. Therapy is not designed to help you with your issues, it's only there to make sure you conform and stay a good little wage slave so that you can go back to work. This is why companies started parroting mental health lingo and introduced programs that offer "free" therapy, yoga classes, etc. If it was as effective as its touted as being, the mental illness rate wouldn't be as high as it is.

It sucks. If therapy couldn't help me before when my problems were much smaller and the world was less of a disaster, how is it supposed to help now?

 

[ma0]

What horror stories from helplines have you heard

I'm pretty sure I heard one story of an agent just hanging up the phone on someone when their shift ended, don't remember where I heard it.

 

[Life'sA6itch]

I'm pretty sure I heard one story of an agent just hanging up the phone on someone when their shift ended, don't remember where I heard it.

I would not be surprised at all. Lots of places where people work on the phone have strict rules against that AND in a contradictory manner also have strict rules actually encouraging hangups such as no overtime, pressure to end your workday on time, etc. Not even to speak of their own personal time outside of work/volunteering for a helpline and their own pressure in trying to get to their own events.

 

[divinemistress36]

You will get better advice on here than any hotline. Its hard to find a good therapist Ive gone through like 4 before I found a decent one and she can only help so much

 

[WhiteRaven]

I even have a therapist I like, she's really cool but it won't ever get better, if nothing has changed in 6 months it's not going to.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Those fake phony morons can take their fake phony empathy and shove it up their very real derrieres.