Method Amount of alcohol needed to take with amitriptyline cocktail??

[Willowkin]

I think I've figured out just about everything I need with the Amitriptyline "cocktail". I'm going to be drinking vodka instead of whiskey as part of the final step but as a non-drinker I am concerned about vomiting. I have already started having screwdrivers (which is vodka and orange juice) but I don't know how much vodka I'll really need minimum.
Can someone give me an actual amount and where they got that info from please?

 

[Fragile]

i've been reading a lot about this method and i can't really find the right amount so i'm also really interested in this information.

it shouldn't be a problem as long as you have meto, but in some failed attempts i've read about, some people downed a whole bottle and still didn't throw up, i'm also seeing a correlation between a high dose of alcohol plus other pills and then failing at it.

the pph only mentions alcohol as a potentiator and as a way to wash down the bitter taste, they don't say anything about the right dose so no answers there.

 

[Willowkin]

i've been reading a lot about this method and i can't really find the right amount so i'm also really interested in this information.

it shouldn't be a problem as long as you have meto, but in some failed attempts i've read about, some people downed a whole bottle and still didn't throw up, i'm also seeing a correlation between a high dose of alcohol plus other pills and then failing at it.

the pph only mentions alcohol as a potentiator and as a way to wash down the bitter taste, they don't say anything about the right dose so no answers there.

I know I'm using the pph too. I'm also using prescription Dexilant (which is for GERD) instead of meto. I have a lot of other kinds of pills but somebody I talk to was reaching meds as well (we are pretty much the same stuff) has pointed out that depending on the pill it's almost not worth it to take other meds or try anything other than alcohol in addition to the amitriptyline cocktail because you don't know what the reaction will be. It may induce vomiting just by mixing one other med! Even if adding additional "dangerous" medication(s) might SEEM like it makes sense, I am definitely NOT trying it! Everything I've found so far and that's quite a lot says that taken properly the amitriptyline cocktail should be way more than enough to do the job as long as the person is not found too soon. I'm not trying to change your mind just telling you what made me decide not to try anything else :)

 

[Donewith_]

I think I've figured out just about everything I need with the Amitriptyline "cocktail". I'm going to be drinking vodka instead of whiskey as part of the final step but as a non-drinker I am concerned about vomiting. I have already started having screwdrivers (which is vodka and orange juice) but I don't know how much vodka I'll really need minimum.
Can someone give me an actual amount and where they got that info from please?

I am using vodka too..the amount has not been specified in books afaik.. they just mentioned to use it to swallow meds. I am a non-drinker too..but i habituated myself to it for my attempt. I don't want to throw up during my attempt..if i choose to drink for first time at that time. I drank 2 or 3 times.. but not more amount ..just 50 ml. And its ok on my stomach.

Maybe i'll drink till where i feel comfortable and my stomach doesn't feel heavy. You don't want to mess it up at the last point coz of vodka.. Ami cocktail itself is lethal..vodka obviously increases the lethality of it to some extent. But i wouldn't take too much..anyways i 'll take less vodka in my attempt..coz the vodka i have is a bit spoiled i think..and i doubt if i can get more vodka.

 

[Throwaway9787]

Just take a swig of it i think

 

[Willowkin]

Just take a swig of it i think

Nooooo it definitely requires much more than that!

P.S. - that's not meant meanly btw, I just know for a fact a swig won't do anything at all

I am using vodka too..the amount has not been specified in books afaik.. they just mentioned to use it to swallow meds. I am a non-drinker too..but i habituated myself to it for my attempt. I don't want to throw up during my attempt..if i choose to drink for first time at that time. I drank 2 or 3 times.. but not more amount ..just 50 ml. And its ok on my stomach.

Maybe i'll drink till where i feel comfortable and my stomach doesn't feel heavy. You don't want to mess it up at the last point coz of vodka.. Ami cocktail itself is lethal..vodka obviously increases the lethality of it to some extent. But i wouldn't take too much..anyways i 'll take less vodka in my attempt..coz the vodka i have is a bit spoiled i think..and i doubt if i can get more vodka.

Check my other thread I just posted with "warning" in the title. It's a weird concept but you probably will find any answers I get helpful too

 

[eve2004]

A non-drinker can't take a big enough "swig" to do anything, and also taking a swig would probably be enough to make you puke or at least spit it out. Thats why non drinkers drink their alcohol in juice or cola.

 

[Throwaway9787]

Nooooo it definitely requires much more than that!

P.S. - that's not meant meanly btw, I just know for a fact a swig won't do anything at all

Check my other thread I just posted with "warning" in the title. It's a weird concept but you probably will find any answers I get helpful too

from the video on amitriptyline in the pph alcohol is used to get rid of the nasty taste once the pills are dissolved in water and swallowed.

 

[JimFord99]

Possibly I would suggest you get used to drink alcohol, this may help.

 

[Lost1804]

I'm sure I read somewhere that the pills should be crushed and mixed with jam or honey to make them more palatable? Wikibooks perhaps?

 

[JimFord99]

Probably to get rid of the bitter taste ???

 

[Willowkin]

According to The Peaceful Pill Handbook (which you can find in Resources) amitriptyline needs to be in just enough water to cover the amount of pills and dissolved as you gently stir it. You can check the book for the necessary required amount (mine are 25mg so I'll need 400 pills)

Alcohol is only partially for the bitterness but primarily used for other reasons to help the amitriptyline do its job. I'm citing the 2018 copy and other things I've found
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A non-drinker can't take a big enough "swig" to do anything, and also taking a swig would probably be enough to make you puke or at least spit it out. Thats why non drinkers drink their alcohol in juice or cola.

I'm a non-drinker so will be drinking my vodka with orange juice (called a screwdriver), probably about 2 normal bottles of water worth, as well as probably something called "slimming" which I just learned about last night and is what the other post of mine I mentioned above is about. Some people might find it to be too graphic so I didn't describe it in this post and created a new one with a warning in the title

 

[JimFord99]

Like the idea to have a drink as well ..

 

[Willowkin]

Like the idea to have a drink as well ..

Yes. The slimming gets alcohol in your blood by skipping the stomach but I'm thinking as much as I can handle of drinking it too without risking throwing up is my best bet

 

[eve2004]

According to The Peaceful Pill Handbook (which you can find in Resources) amitriptyline needs to be in just enough water to cover the amount of pills and dissolved as you gently stir it. You can check the book for the necessary required amount (mine are 25mg so I'll need 400 pills)

Alcohol is only partially for the bitterness but primarily used for other reasons to help the amitriptyline do its job. I'm citing the 2018 copy and other things I've found
W

I'm a non-drinker so will be drinking my vodka with orange juice (called a screwdriver), probably about 2 normal bottles of water worth, as well as probably something called "slimming" which I just learned about last night and is what the other post of mine I mentioned above is about. Some people might find it to be too graphic so I didn't describe it in this post and created a new one with a warning in the title

I could never drink enough alcohol or alcoholic cocktails to get drunk because I hate the taste of it and when diluted enough for me to tolerate the taste, I'd be stumbling to the washroom to pee for hours.... !!!

Do the pills dissolve easily or do you need to grind them up? I can't imagine how much liquid you'd need to dissolve 400 pills plus drink the diluted alcohol...

 

[Willowkin]

I could never drink enough alcohol or alcoholic cocktails to get drunk because I hate the taste of it and when diluted enough for me to tolerate the taste, I'd be stumbling to the washroom to pee for hours.... !!!

Do the pills dissolve easily or do you need to grind them up? I can't imagine how much liquid you'd need to dissolve 400 pills plus drink the diluted alcohol...

I did a test a couple weeks ago with just one pill and it dissolves completely without me even having to shake it. I just left it overnight and shook it a little before drinking. I will PM you what slimming is because you don't drink it

 

[Lost1804]

Please..... Before you do anything, research!!
Amitriptyline alone is a horrible death! Wikibooks did have the proper cocktail, but it's been removed for legal reasons.
It listed the amounts and order of taking them. I wish I'd written it down, because I can't remember the doses.
But firstly is the antiemetics! Vital!! The list recommend amitriptyline, diazepam and lorazepam. As well as alcohol. It said to crush the pills and stir with jam or honey, something more palatable. Same for all the pills. Diazepam is a slow acting sleep inducer, but lasts longer than lorazepam. Lorazepam induces sleep quicker, but doesn't last as long, which is why they are both recommend. It also said start taking antiemetics a few days before you plan to suicide, and again 45 mins before the cocktail. I'm almost sure it was diazepam 1st, followed by amitriptyline, then lorazepam. And a good swig of your favourite booze while waiting for it to kick in.
The antiemetics are vital, otherwise you're likely to throw it all up, and death will not be so peaceful. Amitriptyline alone is a horrible death. I know, I saw how my daughter died. Which is why I am going to join her.
Please please read up before you do it and plan carefully.

 

[Willowkin]

Please..... Before you do anything, research!!
Amitriptyline alone is a horrible death! Wikibooks did have the proper cocktail, but it's been removed for legal reasons.
It listed the amounts and order of taking them. I wish I'd written it down, because I can't remember the doses.
But firstly is the antiemetics! Vital!! The list recommend amitriptyline, diazepam and lorazepam. As well as alcohol. It said to crush the pills and stir with jam or honey, something more palatable. Same for all the pills. Diazepam is a slow acting sleep inducer, but lasts longer than lorazepam. Lorazepam induces sleep quicker, but doesn't last as long, which is why they are both recommend. It also said start taking antiemetics a few days before you plan to suicide, and again 45 mins before the cocktail. I'm almost sure it was diazepam 1st, followed by amitriptyline, then lorazepam. And a good swig of your favourite booze while waiting for it to kick in.
The antiemetics are vital, otherwise you're likely to throw it all up, and death will not be so peaceful. Amitriptyline alone is a horrible death. I know, I saw how my daughter died. Which is why I am going to join her.
Please please read up before you do it and plan carefully.

Thanks but I'm not taking it alone at all. Can you explain what you mean by "a horrible death"? I've done tons and tons of research and everything I find says it's one of the best ways to go. I've got everything covered I just need figure out how much alcohol I need because it definitely requires more than just a swig because it's more than just getting rid of the taste.

What I'm doing is not taking any meds for at least 3 days ahead of time, stop eating the night before, several hours before the amitriptyline I'll be taking Dexilant which is an acid reflux med ( because it is a delayed release I will be opening the capsule and mixing the contents with applesauce which my doctor says will get rid of the delay), give that some time to settle, then drink the dissolved amitriptyline (400 pills of 25mg), then possibly Seroquel (which makes me very tired) and/or Klonopin which is a controlled med for bad anxiety. Finally mixing vodka & OJ and MAYBE "slimming" (inserting a vodka-soaked tampon vaginally and/or analy.

P.S. I don't have access to anything else that is suggested

 

[Lost1804]

My daughter did it on impulse. She hadn't planned it. She took a massive amount of amitriptyline and mirtazipine. Her bedroom was a mess, she'd thrown up a lot. Things were scattered everywhere. And she was found hunched up over a table. Not peaceful at all. Breaks my heart to think of her suffering like that.
She died within 12 of taking the pills, I know because I was with her the evening before.

 

[Donewith_]

Please..... Before you do anything, research!!
Amitriptyline alone is a horrible death! Wikibooks did have the proper cocktail, but it's been removed for legal reasons.
It listed the amounts and order of taking them. I wish I'd written it down, because I can't remember the doses.
But firstly is the antiemetics! Vital!! The list recommend amitriptyline, diazepam and lorazepam. As well as alcohol. It said to crush the pills and stir with jam or honey, something more palatable. Same for all the pills. Diazepam is a slow acting sleep inducer, but lasts longer than lorazepam. Lorazepam induces sleep quicker, but doesn't last as long, which is why they are both recommend. It also said start taking antiemetics a few days before you plan to suicide, and again 45 mins before the cocktail. I'm almost sure it was diazepam 1st, followed by amitriptyline, then lorazepam. And a good swig of your favourite booze while waiting for it to kick in.
The antiemetics are vital, otherwise you're likely to throw it all up, and death will not be so peaceful. Amitriptyline alone is a horrible death. I know, I saw how my daughter died. Which is why I am going to join her.
Please please read up before you do it and plan carefully.

What!
When was it removed?

 

[Lost1804]

What!
When was it removed?

I don't know. I went to check it, and it's gone. There's a message saying it was removed for legal reasons, but that "doesn't mean it won't be put back up again" so they say....

 

[Willowkin]

My daughter did it on impulse. She hadn't planned it. She took a massive amount of amitriptyline and mirtazipine. Her bedroom was a mess, she'd thrown up a lot. Things were scattered everywhere. And she was found hunched up over a table. Not peaceful at all. Breaks my heart to think of her suffering like that.
She died within 12 of taking the pills, I know because I was with her the evening before.

I'm so sorry to hear it wasn't peaceful for her! Not knowing to take the stomach settling stuff, what else to expect, and what else can make it go smoother (specifically the alcohol & sleep meds) but according to everything I've found if planned it is one of the most peaceful ways to die since you're asleep when everything happens
I don't know what happened with Wikibooks but here are photos from the amitriptyline section of my copy of the 2018 Peaceful Pill Handbook that includes the cocktail. I only left out the part explaining what amitriptyline is which is page 174

 

[Donewith_]

I don't know. I went to check it, and it's gone. There's a message saying it was removed for legal reasons, but that "doesn't mean it won't be put back up again" so they say....

Thats bad. I saw it before a few months i think.
I hope the reason behind it is nothing serious ..and it'll be up soon.
There is a lot info there.. even the experiences of people who left by using it.
It was helpful.

 

[Ktenacious007]

Please..... Before you do anything, research!!
Amitriptyline alone is a horrible death! Wikibooks did have the proper cocktail, but it's been removed for legal reasons.
It listed the amounts and order of taking them. I wish I'd written it down, because I can't remember the doses.
But firstly is the antiemetics! Vital!! The list recommend amitriptyline, diazepam and lorazepam. As well as alcohol. It said to crush the pills and stir with jam or honey, something more palatable. Same for all the pills. Diazepam is a slow acting sleep inducer, but lasts longer than lorazepam. Lorazepam induces sleep quicker, but doesn't last as long, which is why they are both recommend. It also said start taking antiemetics a few days before you plan to suicide, and again 45 mins before the cocktail. I'm almost sure it was diazepam 1st, followed by amitriptyline, then lorazepam. And a good swig of your favourite booze while waiting for it to kick in.
The antiemetics are vital, otherwise you're likely to throw it all up, and death will not be so peaceful. Amitriptyline alone is a horrible death. I know, I saw how my daughter died. Which is why I am going to join her.
Please please read up before you do it and plan carefully.

Are you doin amitriptyline

 

[Lost1804]

Are you doin amitriptyline

I will, yes. I have more than enough saved now. Need diazepam.

 

[Darkdreamer001]

I think I've figured out just about everything I need with the Amitriptyline "cocktail". I'm going to be drinking vodka instead of whiskey as part of the final step but as a non-drinker I am concerned about vomiting. I have already started having screwdrivers (which is vodka and orange juice) but I don't know how much vodka I'll really need minimum.
Can someone give me an actual amount and where they got that info from please?

I want to try this method...what all do I need for the cocktail and where do I purchase the necessary items?

 

[bokete]

I saved a PDF of the Google Web Cache when I realized that the article on Wikibooks was removed. If anyone wants, here it's.

 

[Aky12345]

Where the method am how many to take??

 

[Hadenuf]

I have lorazepam and my intention is to take enough for a deep sleep with alcohol and be outside in the cold and remote enough to not be found for hours I also have propanlol and mirtazapine to mix in so my hope is the cold will finish the job




to mix in

 

[Aky12345]

I saved a PDF of the Google Web Cache when I realized that the article on Wikibooks was removed. If anyone wants, here it's.

My daughter did it on impulse. She hadn't planned it. She took a massive amount of amitriptyline and mirtazipine. Her bedroom was a mess, she'd thrown up a lot. Things were scattered everywhere. And she was found hunched up over a table. Not peaceful at all. Breaks my heart to think of her suffering like that.
She died within 12 of taking the pills, I know because I was with her the evening before.

12 pills???

i've been reading a lot about this method and i can't really find the right amount so i'm also really interested in this information.

it shouldn't be a problem as long as you have meto, but in some failed attempts i've read about, some people downed a whole bottle and still didn't throw up, i'm also seeing a correlation between a high dose of alcohol plus other pills and then failing at it.

the pph only mentions alcohol as a potentiator and as a way to wash down the bitter taste, they don't say anything about the right dose so no answers there.

How many pills.??