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BuranaPoe

BuranaPoe

Is there something really worth it?
Apr 4, 2023
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Lately I am following people with physical limitations on social networks (degenerative diseases, amputations, etc.) and they all preach the same thing: "life is the color you paint it" "don't let the outside world affect your inner world" "there is to be grateful for what we have" "I'm shitty but look at me, I get by with what I have"...
As much as I try to suggest that vague words like these are helpful to me, I just can't, I can't understand very optimistic people... Does this happen to anyone else? :c
 
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flyingrabbitt

flyingrabbitt

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Jun 28, 2023
45
I don't think you're ungrateful, to get to an optimistic mindset like those people have is very difficult when you have bad mental health since physical and mental health are so different. I'm considered a pretty optimistic person yet I'm no where near the level of optimistic the people you're describing are, it's a personal journey and it's nothing to feel guilty for. You're doing the best you can and that's wonderful.
 
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MrDarkness

MrDarkness

Left sasu, to improve my life
Jun 18, 2023
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Lately I am following people with physical limitations on social networks (degenerative diseases, amputations, etc.) and they all preach the same thing: "life is the color you paint it" "don't let the outside world affect your inner world" "there is to be grateful for what we have" "I'm shitty but look at me, I get by with what I have"...
As much as I try to suggest that vague words like these are helpful to me, I just can't, I can't understand very optimistic people... Does this happen to anyone else? :c
Everyone sees the world differently, some people are happy with what they see, some people are sadden with what they see, it's very hard to be ungrateful
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I admire them but I don't necessarily want to emulate them. It's up to them how they want to view their life as it is- up to me how I want to view mine.

You may be ungrateful but then- that's also your choice. I do happen to believe that GENUINE gratitude is a key to being happy in life but I think it has to be just that- GENUINE. I don't think we necessarily feel it when other people try to guilt trip us into it. Or- we may feel it but then resent it that other people have guilted us into it.

Personally- I'm not grateful for being born. Quite the opposite- I resent it that I exist. Plus- I think it's kind of perverse to be grateful that less awful things have happened to me than could have. Or- less awful things have happened to me than have happened to other people. That's a bit like gloating. It does kind of predispose that this world is bound to be full of bad things- so- if you're lucky enough to get through without them happening to you- you ought to be grateful for it. That may well be accurate but it's pretty depressing! I don't want to live in a world where you need to feel grateful that something awful hasn't happened to you... yet.
 
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The anhedonic one

The anhedonic one

Dead inside
May 20, 2023
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Optimism is mostly just lying to yourself. Pessimism is just being honest with yourself and having the courage to face reality.
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
47,236
I personally cannot stand toxic positivity, I find it insensitive and repulsive, I just think that people like that are blinded by delusions, they don't wish to accept that existence truly is so cruel and hellish.

Not wanting to suffer is a perfectly valid way to feel and could never mean that someone is ungrateful, none of us are obligated to continue existing here anyway, we only exist in the first place after all as other people were selfish enough to burden us with existence. To me existence is just unnecessary suffering, and wanting suicide will always be perfectly logical, we all have our right to die.
 
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flyingrabbitt

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Jun 28, 2023
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Optimism is mostly just lying to yourself. Pessimism is just being honest with yourself and having the courage to face reality.
Not always, I'm an optimist but I'm also a realist where I can acknowledge life is miserable and full of suffering but that doesn't stop me from appreciating small things and trying to find good things in the bad.
 
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