Alternatives...

[amatin]

So, I'm likely about to invest is some N, but reading about the shipping times it really would take longer than I like. And express shipping it seems like it would put the package over more import scrutiny and I definitely don't want to spend the money and not get it.

So, does anyone have any other suggestions of things i can get, that end up being around the 500-600, if not less, I would be paying for the N instead. I'm living out of my car at the moment, in a really bad neighborhood, doing really dangerous shit. I'm hungry, tired, and I have no contact with my old life, friends, or family anymore. I just cut out the last person who could have possibly changed my mind about ctbing because it dawned on me he had zero interest in showing me things could be better. Anyway, legality isn't really a problem at all. So, any alternative suggestions on things I'd be able to get much faster, that are pretty effective and I couldn't really screw up. (I would definitely botch an exit bag, for example)

 

[El Topo]

Hi Amatin,

If you have connections to reliable drug dealers, getting some genuine fentanyl or high-quality heroin might be an option. Dignified Dying, a book written by a Dutch euthanasia doctor, narrows down the best drug options to barbiturates, opiates, chloroquine, and tricyclic antidepressants. Of course, other opiates besides heroin and fentanyl would work, but then we're talking about prescription drugs like oxycodone, and street prices for prescription opiates are sky-high in the US. For example, one of the Dutch euthanasia organizations recommends 1200 mg of oxycodone with a large dose of opiates, but the average street price of oxycodone in the US is around $1/mg, so we're talking about $1000. Lethal doses of heroin and fentanyl are much cheaper.

What about carbon monoxide? This thread describes the method in detail: https://8ch.net/suicide/res/36746.html

It would be pretty cheap too, like $100-200. You could drive to a secluded area and do it in your car.

 

[dangier_to_myself]

Hi Amatin,

If you have connections to reliable drug dealers, getting some genuine fentanyl or high-quality heroin might be an option. Dignified Dying, a book written by a Dutch euthanasia doctor, narrows down the best drug options to barbiturates, opiates, chloroquine, and tricyclic antidepressants. Of course, other opiates besides heroin and fentanyl would work, but then we're talking about prescription drugs like oxycodone, and street prices for prescription opiates are sky-high in the US. For example, one of the Dutch euthanasia organizations recommends 1200 mg of oxycodone with a large dose of opiates, but the average street price of oxycodone in the US is around $1/mg, so we're talking about $1000. Lethal doses of heroin and fentanyl are much cheaper.

What about carbon monoxide? This thread describes the method in detail: https://8ch.net/suicide/res/36746.html

It would be pretty cheap too, like $100-200. You could drive to a secluded area and do it in your car.

What about morphine?

 

[El Topo]

What about morphine?

Morphine can work. After all, plenty of people OD on codeine, which is much weaker than morphine.

 

[Aity4883]

Carbon monoxide in car. Seal it off completely. Follow the guides.

Or hanging.

 

[dangier_to_myself]

Morphine can work. After all, plenty of people OD on codeine, which is much weaker than morphine.

But what would the street price be?

 

[dangier_to_myself]

Sodium Nitrite. Super cheap, relatively reliable, and reversible if you change your mind and get help in time.

But you were the one who turned me off sodium nitrite! With grave warnings about agonizing pain, the near certainty of throwing it up, and the fact that everyone you had ever heard of who had tried it had failed!

 

[DF90]

But you were the one who turned me off sodium nitrite! With grave warnings about agonizing pain, the near certainty of throwing it up, and the fact that everyone you had ever heard of who had tried it had failed!

No. I specifically remember telling you not to do it without pain meds and antiemetics actually. I told you of the people who did not use those.

 

[Sonnenblume]

No. I specifically remember telling you not to do it without pain meds and antiemetics actually. I told you of the people who did not use those.

And potentiate it with baking soda

 

[DF90]

And potentiate it with baking soda

Ahh. I am doing without. There have been findings that it can actually null the process.

 

[Sonnenblume]

Ahh. I am doing without. There have been findings that it can actually null the process.

really?? can you show me? please

 

[DF90]

really?? can you show me? please

I can't find it because it was originally sent to me on SS and it's gone now. But I found this one 8chan.

"The March edition of PPeH recommends 10 grams but notes that as little as 3 can be lethal. It does still include the bit about baking soda, but there is an actual scientific study that shows that baking soda reduces the toxic effect but they seem to think it's worth taking; nobody knows if they know it makes it less toxic. They also say dietary supplements like Phytic acid can help it too."

Either way, I'd rather play it safe and just not use the baking soda.

 

[Sonnenblume]

I can't find it because it was originally sent to me on SS and it's gone now. But I found this one 8chan.

"The March edition of PPeH recommends 10 grams but notes that as little as 3 can be lethal. It does still include the bit about baking soda, but there is an actual scientific study that shows that baking soda reduces the toxic effect but they seem to think it's worth taking; nobody knows if they know it makes it less toxic. They also say dietary supplements like Phytic acid can help it too."

Either way, I'd rather play it safe and just not use the baking soda.

I'm glad I heard about this before I tried, thank you! Yeah I'll play it safe and not do the baking soda eitther. Though I think I'll take more than the 10g because I'm overweight. Better safe than sorry.

 

[El Topo]

But what would the street price be?

I've never bought morphine, so I don't know what the average street price is in the US. Some online suppliers I've seen sell it for anywhere from 20 cents to 40 cents per milligram, depending on the form.

The DDMP method uses 10 grams of morphine, which is not cheap. However, no one knows if it's absolutely necessary to use 10 grams.

 

[DF90]

Have you tasted the solution yet? If so, is it really bad? I'm sensitive to tastes. I may just take the whole damn bottle, since is dissolves in water easily. Not like I need to save some for later lol

I have not taste it. But it's a salt used to cure meats, so I have been under the assumption that it will be extremely salty and taste slightly like chemicals. You are going to vomit immediately if you try to do the whole bottle.

 

[Sonnenblume]

I have not taste it. But it's a salt used to cure meats, so I have been under the assumption that it will be extremely salty and taste slightly like chemicals. You are going to vomit immediately if you try to do the whole bottle.

Maybe 30g then, dissolved in 100mL of water. I know Nitschke dissolved 15g in 50ml of water, so that should work out...

 

[DF90]

Maybe 30g then, dissolved in 100mL of water. I know Nitschke dissolved 15g in 50ml of water, so that should work out...

I'd increase water amount to 150mL for 30, since 75-100mL is reccomended for 15g. If it's too concentrated it will make you sick faster.

 

[Sonnenblume]

I'd increase water amount to 150mL for 30, since 75-100mL is reccomended for 15g. If it's too concentrated it will make you sick faster.

Ok, ty! One more question, sorry... are you taking Reglan with it? Also, I'm considering combining it with a plastic bag over my head.

 

[DF90]

Ok, ty! One more question, sorry... are you taking Reglan with it? Also, I'm considering combining it with a plastic bag over my head.

I have antiemetics and pain pills prescribed to me to use with it. I would 100% reccomend taking reglan.

 

[Sonnenblume]

I have antiemetics and pain pills prescribed to me to use with it. I would 100% reccomend taking reglan.

I wish, all I can get is zofran. Hopefully that'll do...

 

[OfficerK]

There are online pharmacies that will ship metoclopramide to you. I would guess that you could probably get away without sanctions in the case that your package is stopped, seeing that metoclopramide technically isn't an illegal substance.

 

[Sonnenblume]

There are online pharmacies that will ship metoclopramide to you. I would guess that you could probably get away without sanctions in the case that your package is stopped, seeing that metoclopramide technically isn't an illegal substance.

I don't have time to wait that long, unless you know of one that delivers super fast...

 

[OfficerK]

I don't have time to wait that long, unless you know of one that delivers super fast...

I'm not too familiar with any online pharmacy, but i reckon it would probably take at least a few weeks. While I don't know a lot about your situation, I would personally rather wait another couple of days or weeks to make sure that everything goes as planned rather than risking surviving. From what I understand, vomiting is one of the highest risk factors associated with suicide by sodium nitrite poisoning.

 

[Sonnenblume]

I'm not too familiar with any online pharmacy, but i reckon it would probably take at least a few weeks. While I don't know a lot about your situation, I would personally rather wait another couple of days or weeks to make sure that everything goes as planned rather than risking surviving. From what I understand, vomiting is one of the highest risk factors associated with suicide by sodium nitrite poisoning.

I don't have weeks, unfortunately, my health is deteriorating to the point I'm not physically functional

 

[OfficerK]

I don't have weeks, unfortunately, my health is deteriorating to the point I'm not physically functional

You might have thought about this before, but would it be possible for you to white lie your way to some metoclopramide? Depending on what your illness is you could probably try to convince your MD that you have nausea symptoms related to your condition.

 

[Sonnenblume]

You might have thought about this before, but would it be possible for you to white lie your way to some metoclopramide? Depending on what your illness is you could probably try to convince your MD that you have nausea symptoms related to your condition.

It's a long story but I don't have a primary care doctor now. It's hard to leave the house these days, too much pain.

 

[OfficerK]

Alright. Hoping everything works out the way you want.

 

[El Topo]

I don't have time to wait that long, unless you know of one that delivers super fast...

Sonnenblume, what country are you in? For some reason I thought maybe the UK?

 

[Sonnenblume]

Sonnenblume, what country are you in? For some reason I thought maybe the UK?

US, West coast

 

[El Topo]

US, West coast

Oh ok. Reason I asked is because people in the UK can order certain meds online and have it delivered right away.