Alcohol, coffee and psychedelics are the only things that momentarily make my life worth living

[Cookiecarver]

I had an extended psychotic episode in 2017 and because of that the doctors said I have a schizophrenia from which I will never recover. Ever since that the doctors and medical personnel have been really patronizing and treat me like a child. That schizophrenia diagnosis and what the medical personnel did to me afterwards made me become a NEET which I still am to this day. Of course they don't accept responsibility, but blame me for my neetdom, but I fully believe it was them who ruined my life. Unless I ctb I will have to do everything they, eat the drugs that make everything feel uninteresting, go to bullshit courses that are supposed to rehabilitate me and so on.

At least that is my perspective, you can take it with a grain of salt since I've been diagnosed with schizophrenia.

I've considered suicide, but I still get enjoyment from alcohol, coffee and psychedelics, so I'd want to live at least a few decades. I also want to find out how technology develops in the future.

 

[Oblivion Access]

I don't necessarily think being diagnosed with schizophrenia makes your perspective invalid, your experience is your experience and however divorced it might be from other people's interpretation, it's still what you see, feel and reason. I can definitely relate to NEETdom and only really deriving enjoyment from substances, I'm sorry you've had such a bad experience with mental health professionals. Kratom is my poison of choice, apparently it has mild antipsychotic properties but it's deceptively easy to get hooked on like any opioid. Do you still experience psychosis? What's your experience with psychedelics like, do you reckon they help or harm you in the long run?

 

[Cookiecarver]

I don't necessarily think being diagnosed with schizophrenia makes your perspective invalid, your experience is your experience and however divorced it might be from other people's interpretation, it's still what you see, feel and reason. I can definitely relate to NEETdom and only really deriving enjoyment from substances, I'm sorry you've had such a bad experience with mental health professionals. Kratom is my poison of choice, apparently it has mild antipsychotic properties but it's deceptively easy to get hooked on like any opioid. Do you still experience psychosis? What's your experience with psychedelics like, do you reckon they help or harm you in the long run?

Thank you for the answer.

I've considered quitting these substances cold turkey and try to reset my brain that way, maybe I could find out whether I could get enjoyment from something else than substances. I don't experience psychosis anymore, the antipsychotic drugs work pretty effectively in stopping that (unless you count occasional suicide ideation as a psychosis which mental health professionals actually do count).

When it comes to psychedelics, I think they're pretty useless for anything other than a short period of good time. I often have delusional beliefs while under their effect, which fortunately go away after their effect stops. I wouldn't recommend them. I only use them because it's nice to feel good for once even if it includes delusional beliefs. But again, that's only my perspective.

 

[Oblivion Access]

Thank you for the answer.

I've considered quitting these substances cold turkey and try to reset my brain that way, maybe I could find out whether I could get enjoyment from something else than substances. I don't experience psychosis anymore, the antipsychotic drugs work pretty effectively in stopping that (unless you count occasional suicide ideation a psychosis which mental health professionals actually do count).

When it comes to psychedelics, I think they're pretty useless for anything other than a short period of good time. I often have delusional beliefs while under their effect, which fortunately go away after their effect stops. I wouldn't recommend them. I only use them because it's nice to feel good for once even if it includes delusional beliefs. But again, that's only my perspective.

Quitting might be worth a shot just to see how you feel without them, though that alone won't help much, you'd need to replace substance use with more beneficial habits and enjoyable activities like exercise, though it's hard to find enjoyable experiences when you don't enjoy much of anything. I've found sobriety just further confronts me with the futility of my life, but idk about your circumstances. Quitting alcohol is generally a good idea, it's a pretty nasty drug. Not a bad way to challenge yourself if you've run out of ideas to try. Hah, in that case I'd be psychotic almost 24/7.

I've also had delusional thoughts on psychs but was able to shake em off for the most part. While the high was fun, the week or so of immense depression relief after tripping was the main attraction for me. The only real downside was being reminded of things my brain repressed for protection. They also made me a bit more open to new things, my thinking and activities are usually very rigid and restricted which makes for a boring and spiritually impoverished life.

 

[Shu]

I know I'm going to sound like a dweeb, but what does "NEET" stand for? Also, do you think I cd OD on catnip spray? Should I get spayed or neutered first? Just afraid of choking on a hairball (mine or anyone else's).

This person is obviously trolling.

 

[Baatz]

LSD, for me, was very therapeutic in the sense that it was like a hard reset for my brain. It always put things in a different perspective. The stuff I was worried, ashamed or depressed about got slapped down by the way I processed and thought about things when I was on acid. I credit the 100 or so trips I took over a five year period about 20 years ago as being part of the reason I've made it as far as I have with this near crippling depression. I'd sober up from the trips but bring a lot of the gains from the altered state with me back in to the "real" world. I never had a bad trip, was always surrounded by friends at a party or chill at home type of scene.

I've been sober since then (I was doing some ketamine and ecstasy at the time too) and I don't drink. No one knows you like you, ha, and if you think sobering up might help you and lead to some positive revelations you should go for it. You can always start again. Your experiment may not lead to sobriety but maybe just some cutting back.

Sobriety is healthy for ME (we're all different) but to be honest I've often thought that now I should be taking a good trip every three months or so to help myself but have no way to get it. I feel like it would recharge my batteries, both mentally and creatively (I like making things, like the collage in my avatar, but over the years my creative bouts are getting more and more rare and less and less inspired, imo). I also lack a good person to trip with, someone on the same wave length, which I had before.

I'll never give up my morning coffee.
NEVER, ha ha ha…

 

[WearyHSP]

LSD, for me, was very therapeutic in the sense that it was like a hard reset for my brain. It always put things in a different perspective. The stuff I was worried, ashamed or depressed about got slapped down by the way I processed and thought about things when I was on acid. I credit the 100 or so trips I took over a five year period about 20 years ago as being part of the reason I've made it as far as I have with this near crippling depression. I'd sober up from the trips but bring a lot of the gains from the altered state with me back in to the "real" world. I never had a bad trip, was always surrounded by friends at a party or chill at home type of scene.

I've heard such good things about psychedelics for both depression and trauma.
I've dabbled only a little - and for therapy not for fun. I can't say any of my trips were fun, in fact. I have submerged childhood trauma that I can't remember enough to piece together. It sounds like your LSD trips helped with memory? (though it sounds like you didn't want to remember?)

I wish it was more easily accessible.

 

[goofy]

psychedelics won't help you. all the "research" around psychs helping depression is a lot of fake bullshit made up by people who are addicted to tripping.

If you are a guy, look into TRT.

 

[Shu]

psychedelics won't help you. all the "research" around psychs helping depression is a lot of fake bullshit made up by people who are addicted to tripping.

If you are a guy, look into TRT.

Are you fucking stupid or trolling?

 

[goofy]

Are you fucking stupid or trolling?

Guess im "fucking stupid" because im certainly not trolling.

i remind them tripping doesn't actually solve their issues.

 

[Shu]

Guess im "fucking stupid" because im certainly not trolling.

i remind them tripping doesn't actually solve their issues.

They have already and still are doing tons of studies on mushrooms. You can go look at them.

 

[goofy]

They have already and still are doing tons of studies on mushrooms. You can go look at them.

They have a lot of studies on how cigarettes are healthy too. Or how drinking a glass of red wine every day will make you live to 100.

Even if the studies on mushrooms were meaningful and repeatable (which they aren't) it wouldn't offset the many downsides.

 

[Shu]

Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research

The Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research is leading the way in exploring innovative treatments using psilocybin.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

I'm not having a conversation with you. Your argument is invalid and misinforming.
Cigarettes also cause cancer and kill millions every year. Psilocybin does not. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/magic_mushrooms_help_longtime_smokers_quit