TragedyBornCrimson

TragedyBornCrimson

I accept my eternal punishment
Oct 19, 2023
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I am really worried about the aftermath of my ctb, as I honestly have no idea how those around me will react. I have a friend that attempted to ctb as well as a brother with a similar temperament as me, and a mom who is very attached to my siblings and I, and I have quite a few acquaintances with depression struggles. I am worried that my suicide with result in many more suicides. Does anyone have any stories regarding someone they knew that ctb'd? How common are successive suicides after an initial suicide? There is no one in my family or friend/church circle that has committed suicide, I would be the first. Would my ctb spread a curse, and would it cause others to see ctb as an option. Please tell me your stories about the aftermath if possible.
 
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kitkat9234

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Nov 27, 2024
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I wonder this myself although I really only have my daughter. I know she will be better off but still can't help but think it would fuck her up even more. One of the only things keeping me here. That and fear of failure and what happens next.
 
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MercenariesofMidgar

It All Returns to Nothing.
Nov 30, 2024
76
I relate heavily to your worries. Like SOO much. I think I am going to (in my letter) write something along the lines of how you need to live on without me and that no matter what you need to continue living, and that no matter where you are I will support anything you do.

There is a big risk that comes to this kind of stuff regardless with how you go about it. I know a few people who have ctb and most became depressed for a while, I feel people blame themselves for their end (but it's not their fault of course) compared to it being an accidental death or a natural one. One person I'd like to highlight (whereever you are I hope you are doing well) was an internet friend who I consoled after their best friend shot himself. Not soon after they deleted their account, really worried if they ctb in reaction but I don't know. Other than him people still had a sadness but they lived on. Though they were mostly close friends and boyfriends, how will it compare to losing a son or a brother? That I do not know. Do you know how strong is their support circle is? I know someone who commited suicide, and because of them It's helped me see ctb as an option but they're not the cause. Just that I feel a bond in that our fates are the same. So I think there is a possiblity. Again to try and help avoid this I'm going to basically yell at them to not do as I do and to go to therapy.

At a certain point though I think that if you really don't want to scar your family it's hard to ctb. I feel like I'm in a corner because no matter what I'll let everyone down. But it feels wrong to tell you to ignore you second thoughts if you have them with your family.
 
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TheHolySword

TheHolySword

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Nov 22, 2024
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I have known several people who CTBed (none of them connected) and none of them ever started a train of suicides. I understand your worries and your line of thinking, though. I have the same fear about my younger brother. I do not think he would but we're very close and he's been through so much trauma throughout his life, I would be heartbroken if this were the thing that finally broke him. I will say that all the people I knew who CTBed, those who remained were sad and hurting but we all kept going. There's a somber air around it sometimes but we remember them fondly and love sharing stories. No one as far as I know was all deep in the throes of the pain that they thought of suicide. I think you just have to have faith that they are strong enough to survive this. I am wishing you all the best
 
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mieczyslavcekin

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Aug 24, 2024
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My girlfriend did it last year. I was the only close person. What do you want to know about my experience?
 
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mieczyslavcekin

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Aug 24, 2024
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After rereading - your ctb will likely rise suicidal thoughts of closed ones already in similar situation.
People loving you will probably mostly be terribly missing you and be considerably traumatized for a rather long time. If not forever.
Those more knowledgeable and sympathetic would probably be able to conjure up your point of view to the degree that will allow them to understand it somehow.
Having surviving ctb of my greatest love I will add that I suspect I'll never get rid of that overwhelming sense of loss flooding my consciousness each time I allow myself to really reminisce her, to try to feel her presence and the regret of not having been there enough for her seems as if it'd always be there.
 
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TragedyBornCrimson

TragedyBornCrimson

I accept my eternal punishment
Oct 19, 2023
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I have known several people who CTBed (none of them connected) and none of them ever started a train of suicides. I understand your worries and your line of thinking, though. I have the same fear about my younger brother. I do not think he would but we're very close and he's been through so much trauma throughout his life, I would be heartbroken if this were the thing that finally broke him. I will say that all the people I knew who CTBed, those who remained were sad and hurting but we all kept going. There's a somber air around it sometimes but we remember them fondly and love sharing stories. No one as far as I know was all deep in the throes of the pain that they thought of suicide. I think you just have to have faith that they are strong enough to survive this. I am wishing you all the best
I really hope that my family is able to move on and that I don't open up Pandora's box. I just know that long term my death will make life easier for them from a logical standpoint overall. Emotionally though it will undoubtedly be extremely difficult for them.
After rereading - your ctb will likely rise suicidal thoughts of closed ones already in similar situation.
People loving you will probably mostly be terribly missing you and be considerably traumatized for a rather long time. If not forever.
Those more knowledgeable and sympathetic would probably be able to conjure up your point of view to the degree that will allow them to understand it somehow.
Having surviving ctb of my greatest love I will add that I suspect I'll never get rid of that overwhelming sense of loss flooding my consciousness each time I allow myself to really reminisce her, to try to feel her presence and the regret of not having been there enough for her seems as if it'd always be there.
I am sorry that you lost your girlfriend, she must have meant a lot to you.
 
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absntaknwldgmnt

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Mar 6, 2024
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I am really worried about the aftermath of my ctb, as I honestly have no idea how those around me will react. I have a friend that attempted to ctb as well as a brother with a similar temperament as me, and a mom who is very attached to my siblings and I, and I have quite a few acquaintances with depression struggles. I am worried that my suicide with result in many more suicides. Does anyone have any stories regarding someone they knew that ctb'd? How common are successive suicides after an initial suicide? There is no one in my family or friend/church circle that has committed suicide, I would be the first. Would my ctb spread a curse, and would it cause others to see ctb as an option. Please tell me your stories about the aftermath if possible.
My brother CTB after his friend and then his partner did. He was on this site too. Now look at me. I'm here.

I really think suicidal ideation can be contagious in a way. Apparently, this study found that those who were close to someone that committed/attempted suicide were 65 percent more likely to make an attempt as well.

Bereavement by suicide as a risk factor for suicide attempt: a cross-sectional national UK-wide study of 3432 young bereaved adults
My brother CTB after his friend and then his partner did. He was on this site too. Now look at me. I'm here.

I really think suicidal ideation can be contagious in a way. Apparently, this study found that those who were close to someone that committed/attempted suicide were 65 percent more likely to make an attempt as well.

Bereavement by suicide as a risk factor for suicide attempt: a cross-sectional national UK-wide study of 3432 young bereaved adults
My family was devastated from my brother's death. I'm devastated by it. I constantly think about him, his final moments. Everything. It literally haunts me.
 
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mieczyslavcekin

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Aug 24, 2024
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I really hope that my family is able to move on and that I don't open up Pandora's box. I just know that long term my death will make life easier for them from a logical standpoint overall. Emotionally though it will undoubtedly be extremely difficult for them.

I am sorry that you lost your girlfriend, she must have meant a lot to you.
Thank you. She did. She was the most amazing person I've ever met. At least she's no longer suffering. And, boy, she did. It was crushing watching her struggle that much.
Doesn't change the fact that I'd give everything to get another chance, though.

Getting back to the gist of the thread, the sad truth is that the world just keeps spinning and people usually recover and move on. Though it's not a given for everyone, I think, and one should always account for the possibility of making irreparable damage to another's life, to those few closest ones.
 
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mieczyslavcekin

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Aug 24, 2024
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Also, I think it's VERY individual and depends o the relationship one had with the deceased. I can imagine not being able to get over the suffering and suicide of one's uncle, aunt, grandpa or a friend. Sometimes you just can't accept the loss and have to put it aside as much as possible to avoid getting chronically depressed.
 
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been__ready

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Nov 25, 2024
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Ahhh this is a tough one. My uncle CTB this time last year, and here I am about to do the same around the same date.. however I wouldn't say that his death caused my ideations.. although, I will say that it did put this method on the radar for me due to my personal life circumstances. I hadn't spoken to him in many years.. so again he didn't cause it.

I did..

However - the family members closest to me like my parents and siblings are very grounded in reality and doing well in their life. Like you - I know they will be down for a little while, but ultimately my departure will benefit them.. and I want it to be so that they won't have to worry about me long term.. my prospects aren't good.

I think it depends on the individual or individuals closest to you and their current mental state… and what it's likely to be after.. For sure it's not an easy decision for anyone involved.

Wishing you peace in your decision. Ultimately I think we have to do what is best for us?
 
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suffering_mo

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May 8, 2024
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My brother CTB after his friend and then his partner did. He was on this site too. Now look at me. I'm here.

I really think suicidal ideation can be contagious in a way. Apparently, this study found that those who were close to someone that committed/attempted suicide were 65 percent more likely to make an attempt as well.

Bereavement by suicide as a risk factor for suicide attempt: a cross-sectional national UK-wide study of 3432 young bereaved adults

My family was devastated from my brother's death. I'm devastated by it. I constantly think about him, his final moments. Everything. It literally haunts me.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Was your brother's suicide the reason that you are also depressed and suicidal? Or were you before and it's just made the urge and feeling for it stronger?
 
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SanPabloandSanPedro

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Nov 21, 2024
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I am really worried about the aftermath of my ctb, as I honestly have no idea how those around me will react. I have a friend that attempted to ctb as well as a brother with a similar temperament as me, and a mom who is very attached to my siblings and I, and I have quite a few acquaintances with depression struggles. I am worried that my suicide with result in many more suicides. Does anyone have any stories regarding someone they knew that ctb'd? How common are successive suicides after an initial suicide? There is no one in my family or friend/church circle that has committed suicide, I would be the first. Would my ctb spread a curse, and would it cause others to see ctb as an option. Please tell me your stories about the aftermath if possible.
There is a theory of contagion when it comes to suicide. A number of social scientists have written about the idea. The CDC also has information about social contagion and suicide. Here is a quote from a CDC summary, Evidence suggests that the effect of contagion is not confined to suicides occurring in discrete geographic areas. In particular, nonfictional newspaper and television coverage of suicide has been associated with a statistically significant excess of suicides (6). The effect of contagion appears to be strongest among adolescents (7,8), and several well publicized "clusters" among young persons have occurred (9-11). We humans are hyper pro-social animals and our actions impact on others.
 
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hereornot

hereornot

Freedom
May 16, 2024
141
It's great that you have relatives who would be sad, it means that someone likes you.

In my case, I have a brother, a mother, and uncles.

My brother will not take responsibility for the scams he gave me and then calculate how much money will be left for him.

My mother is cluster B. She has done a lot of harm to me. She will pretend to be sad (because she is incapable of feeling anything) and silently be happy that they will never know what she has done to me.

My uncles, who are senile, only do shit motivated by my brother's lies. At most, they will try to gain something from it and bury some of the family's dirty tricks with me that I know about.

So this is a problem that I won't have to worry about. But I'm glad that you have loved ones. I don't have.
 
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cowboypants

cowboypants

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May 7, 2024
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I thin it will leave trauma behind definitely which likely increases their risk of suicide.

Im worried about my sibling but I think at this point I have shared all the resources I wanted to. Still won't be an easy thing i haven't seen even death in close circle other than my grandma.

We are close to parents only so it will be kinda bad. If I clock out. It might have a negative impact on my younger cousins but I think my presence doesn't change I think either. Prolly better for everyone if I'm not there in my pov
 
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