SadPingu

SadPingu

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I know full suspension is supposed to be a very effective form of CTB.

I watched that documentary of people who jumped off the GG bridge and all survivors said it was instant regret.

So, if you attempted hanging but had a knife in your hand is it theoretically possible that if you felt that instant regret you could cut yourself down.

Physically it would seem that you could. As counter intuitive as it sounds I feel I'd be more likely to go through with it if I potentially had that option to cut myself down though I know SI would likey compel me to do it even if I didn't really want to back out.

It's just ever since seeing that GG bridge doc that "everyone said they felt instant regret," is drilled into my brain.
 
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HerculePoirot

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Interesting. In other words, you're feeling that you are more likely to succeed if your suicide method has a built-in weakness allowing you (or your survival instinct) to make it fail, just in case. Kind of emergency abort button.
I think I may understand that.
 
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Naturally, they will say that they regretted that the interview was with the police or the hospital. They do not want an extra week of mental laughter.
 
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SadPingu

SadPingu

Go out like a spark, my trauma and me.
Jul 27, 2023
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Interesting. In other words, you're feeling that you are more likely to succeed if your suicide method has a built-in weakness allowing you (or your survival instinct) to make it fail, just in case. Kind of emergency abort button.
I think I may understand that.
Yes that's exactly it. That hesitancy of "do I truly want this?" is then diminished. The feeling of dying and only thinking of regret would be horrific last few minutes imo.
Naturally, they will say that they regretted that the interview was with the police or the hospital. They do not want an extra week of mental laughter.
I appreciate that and I did think it's one of those situations where you say what you know people want to hear. Just like when your GP asks if you're feeling suicidal but you know the answer they actually want.
 
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HerculePoirot

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I believe there are two very different states of mind when you commit suicide. During the preparation process, you're looking for the most reliable method, thinking of any smallest possible mistake that could ruin your act. Then when you are actually doing the deed, you'll feel that you're losing control, due to the 100% reliability of your well-thought preparation; then yes, you may enter into panic mode and try to stop it, provided it's not too late.
 
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Apparently, once you hang by your neck you really cant control your limbs. Only being able to grab onto something close by or step on something close by would be options.
 
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You'll lose your faculties far too quick to contemplate cutting yourself down. This is why complete suspension is one of the best methods out there and always has been. You could squeeze in a weekend break before starting and finishing SN, if second thoughts are what you're looking for.
 
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I know full suspension is supposed to be a very effective form of CTB.

I watched that documentary of people who jumped off the GG bridge and all survivors said it was instant regret.

So, if you attempted hanging but had a knife in your hand is it theoretically possible that if you felt that instant regret you could cut yourself down.

Physically it would seem that you could. As counter intuitive as it sounds I feel I'd be more likely to go through with it if I potentially had that option to cut myself down though I know SI would likey compel me to do it even if I didn't really want to back out.

It's just ever since seeing that GG bridge doc that "everyone said they felt instant regret," is drilled into my brain.
This is one of the reasons full suspension really freaks me out. I want to feel as in control as possible if I choose to ctb. It's one of the reasons if I chose hanging, I'd rather do partial. I could be wrong but it feels like it would be easier to stop.
 
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Already Gone6

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May as well not even attempt if you are going to have a knife to cut yourself down afterwards... I don't understand this.
The whole point of full suspension is that SI is irrelevant because once you are in it's grips it's done.
May as well attempt partial hanging cause it's easy to back out of, although with that mindset you ultimately will i'd say.
 
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This is one of the reasons full suspension really freaks me out. I want to feel as in control as possible if I choose to ctb. It's one of the reasons if I chose hanging, I'd rather do partial. I could be wrong but it feels like it would be easier to stop.
You would also have control with the tourniquet method, hanging without hanging. A tourniquet is a binding system through which the blood flow in the veins and arteries (depending on the pressure) can be blocked or completely interrupted.
Further details can be found here:
 
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HerculePoirot

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if I chose hanging, I'd rather do partial. I could be wrong but it feels like it would be easier to stop.
Well the basic principle is this: you hang yourself in order to choke your carotids and *NOT* stop until you die. So, full suspension has a big advantage over partial: after you kick the chair you *CANNOT* stop. So you die for sure.
 
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Davey40210

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I understand the feeling of wanting to have an out, even if its "fake". It kind of moves the "decision point" from the moment you kick the stool to a moment after that, making the stool decision point easier.
 
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Gustav Hartmann

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Aug 28, 2021
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This seems to me a method to overcome my SI. It needs no knife you only have to step off a stable platform so that you can grab the rope and step back. To handle a knife is more complicated. But you should do this only if you really want to die. The chance that you pass out before you are back on the platform is very high.
 
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How long to cut through your rope with the knife?
Can you do this over your head?
If you are this worried about the regret, you might not be ready to attempt.
 
locked*n*loaded

locked*n*loaded

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Hell, you might get so freaked out as soon as you kick away the stool and the rope tightens around your neck, that you involuntarily drop the knife.
 
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I know full suspension is supposed to be a very effective form of CTB.

I watched that documentary of people who jumped off the GG bridge and all survivors said it was instant regret.

So, if you attempted hanging but had a knife in your hand is it theoretically possible that if you felt that instant regret you could cut yourself down.

Physically it would seem that you could. As counter intuitive as it sounds I feel I'd be more likely to go through with it if I potentially had that option to cut myself down though I know SI would likey compel me to do it even if I didn't really want to back out.

It's just ever since seeing that GG bridge doc that "everyone said they felt instant regret," is drilled into my brain.
I think that you can always practive full suspension by holding the other end of the rope while you hang. put something comfortable to fall down on and once you go limp you wont be able to hold yourself up anymore and will collapse. its shocking how quickly everything goes to black. I have practiced it a whole bunch and it honestly feels very nice, I think when the day comes where the other end is tied instead of being held by my hands I would be blacked out too quickly to have regrets even cross my mind. I'm very biased towards this method though so take that with a grain of salt, I know others have different perspectives on it.
 
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