A note about SN and welfare checks.

[LunarLight]

Here's a little note about SN and welfare checks, inspired by a discussion I've just had with another member of SaSu on another thread. I think we all need to clarify things.

When I ordered SN a few months ago, I was very worried about the possibility of a welfare check. I'm a drug addict so I didn't want police at my door under any circumstances.
But after a few months on SaSu, I noticed something: many are fearmongering but don't really know what they are talking about. In reality, you WILL NOT GET ANY WELFARE CHECK if you buy from an OFFICIAL CHEMICAL SUPPLIER. Polish sources like A, BM, O... are examples of official chemical suppliers. Their job is literally to sell chemicals to companies, or, if you're lucky enough, individuals.
SN is not a controlled substance (yet). When it becomes one, people could start worrying - if at all, because it's not sure you'll be allowed to have it shipped to your mailbox anymore.

At the beginning of my time on SaSu, I took part in all that fearmongering. I told people they could get welfare checks. Because I didn't know shit and was worried as fuck (thanks to others raising pointless fears). But here's the truth: I was completely ill-informed.

The only case I could imagine of people getting welfare checks would be if DMC was arrested (because he is an individual who sells SN, not an official chemical supplier) and kept stupidly enough all the names and addresses of the buyers, like KL.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember anyone getting a welfare check after purchasing SN through an official chemical supplier. Only people who got SN or N through vendors who got arrested and kept the names and addresses of the buyers have had welfare checks.

 

[Beyond_Repair]

For what it's worth, I bought SN through DMC and never received a welfare check.

Is what DMC doing illegal though? I thought the sale of SN to consumers being illegal was only for the US - as far as I'm aware it's not in their country so it wouldn't be illegal for them?

 

[LunarLight]

For what it's worth, I bought SN through DMC and never received a welfare check.

Is what DMC doing illegal though? I thought the sale of SN to consumers being illegal was only for the US - as far as I'm aware it's not in their country so it wouldn't be illegal for them?

I didn't say people who bought SN through DMC would get a compulsory welfare check - I only said it could be possible if he was arrested and he'd been stupid enough to keep all names and addresses on his computer, like KL.

You may be right though as I'm not familiar with Ukrainian law. Idk. It seems a bit confusing to me to think that an individual could sell a potentially deadly substance without a certification of any sort, but you never know....

 

[SplitInfrastructure]

could you tip me some sources? Im from poland and been looking for a source for a while

 

[LunarLight]

could you tip me some sources? Im from poland and been looking for a source for a while

You'll get a DM soon.

 

[ctemourge]

wondering if i could get a dm with sources if possible? if not no worries ♡

 

[LunarLight]

wondering if i could get a dm with sources if possible? if not no worries ♡

Sent you a PM.

 

[Redleaf1992]

For what it's worth, I bought SN through DMC and never received a welfare check.

Is what DMC doing illegal though? I thought the sale of SN to consumers being illegal was only for the US - as far as I'm aware it's not in their country so it wouldn't be illegal for them?

FYI DMC does keep it on his system. I messaged him to delete my details manually.

I didn't say people who bought SN through DMC would get a compulsory welfare check - I only said it could be possible if he was arrested and he'd been stupid enough to keep all names and addresses on his computer, like KL.

You may be right though as I'm not familiar with Ukrainian law. Idk. It seems a bit confusing to me to think that an individual could sell a potentially deadly substance without a certification of any sort, but you never know....

Oops quoted wrong message, see above.

 

[LunarLight]

FYI DMC does keep it on his system. I messaged him to delete my details manually.

He's stupid lmao...

 

[feelinggloomy]

You'll get a DM soon.

Can you help me as well. No worries if you can't.

 

[LunarLight]

Can you help me as well. No worries if you can't.

Just sent you a PM.

 

[feelinggloomy]

My son got a welfare check. I don't know where he ordered SN and from whom but for what it's worth the welfare check was 2 months after he CTB with the SN he ordered. They would not tell me where he got it only that it cost 40 bucks. I believe he ordered it to his apartment but the welfare check was to my house (where he was raised) so I assume they tracked his payment info and maybe he didn't change his address on PayPal when he moved. All assumptions. Also it was on the heels of the dude in Canada getting arrested so it could have something to do with that. Their only mission was to retrieve the SN, no one was in trouble.

 

[LunarLight]

My son got a welfare check. I don't know where he ordered SN and from whom but for what it's worth the welfare check was 2 months after he CTB with the SN he ordered. They would not tell me where he got it only that it cost 40 bucks. I believe he ordered it to his apartment but the welfare check was to my house (where he was raised) so I assume they tracked his payment info and maybe he didn't change his address on PayPal when he moved. All assumptions. Also it was on the heels of the dude in Canada getting arrested so it could have something to do with that. Their only mission was to retrieve the SN, no one was in trouble.

Thank you for your testimony. He probably ordered from KL.

 

[pantherfairy]

Sent you a PM.

Could you possibly PM me with sources? I'm in the US.

 

[feelinggloomy]

Thank you for your testimony. He probably ordered from KL.

I don't know what KL is but if it has to do with Canada … that's what I suspected.

 

[27ClubSoon]

wondering if i could get a dm with sources if possible? if not no worries ♡

Likewise if possible

 

[betternever2havbeen]

I thought the whole point was people can't get them from chemical companies anymore unless they're a business? I really don't know whether to risk going with DMC or try and find an official company that doesn't ask for details (but that wont be in the UK obviously) I've been procrastinating for months on this...

 

[DoneWithThisLife]

I am in the UK and I have been trying for nearly a year to get SN. Eventually ordered some and only got a welfare check!! I don't know who DMC is but if anyone would pm me with details I would be more than grateful.

 

[Beyond_Repair]

I didn't say people who bought SN through DMC would get a compulsory welfare check - I only said it could be possible if he was arrested and he'd been stupid enough to keep all names and addresses on his computer, like KL.

You may be right though as I'm not familiar with Ukrainian law. Idk. It seems a bit confusing to me to think that an individual could sell a potentially deadly substance without a certification of any sort, but you never know....

Yeah I don't actually know Ukrainian law either, I was just thinking out loud.

And I just wanted to share my experience in case anyone was hesitant about DMC

FYI DMC does keep it on his system. I messaged him to delete my details manually.

Good to know, thanks

 

[wCvML2]

FYI DMC does keep it on his system. I messaged him to delete my details manually.

Yeah, makes sense since when he was mds he sent to everyone who bought from him the promotional email with the dmc website so he for sure keeps customer information.

 

[Winter_Flower]

I wondered if it would be possible for someone to message me with details please? I'm UK based and it's virtually impossible to buy now unless you're a registered business. I have been pondering over this for months x

 

[LunarLight]

I thought the whole point was people can't get them from chemical companies anymore unless they're a business? I really don't know whether to risk going with DMC or try and find an official company that doesn't ask for details (but that wont be in the UK obviously) I've been procrastinating for months on this...

Some chemical suppliers will sell to you even if you're an individual. You just gotta find them...

 

[Latios]

@LunarLight can you please pm me SN sources that ship to the USA, please? Thank you so much!

 

[astr4]

is it okay if i send you a message about dmc? i don't have my own messages enabled, ha

 

[nibbleone]

Would you pm me some sources for SN? I don't know what DMC stands for. Appreciate it!

 

[BlueCup]

They don't need to arrest DMC to do wellfare checks.

All they need is the identity of one person committing suicide with SN and ask transporters the list of packages he received.
In addition, the content declared by DMC to the customs is pretty suspicious.
They only need to ask transporters the list of packages sent with this content or from the alias given by dmc and bam, you're on their radar.

 

[LunarLight]

They don't need to arrest DMC to do wellfare checks.

All they need is the identity of one person committing suicide with SN and ask transporters the list of packages he received.
In addition, the content declared by DMC to the customs is pretty suspicious.
They only need to ask transporters the list of packages sent with this content or from the alias given by dmc and bam, you're on their radar.

True.

 

[dc10]

FYI DMC does keep it on his system. I messaged him to delete my details manually.

Thanks for flagging this, I have messaged him to ask for my details to be removed.