20 things to say to a pro-lifer.

[faust]

A. Not funny

#1 Most of the people don't know how to live, at least they have to know how to die
#2 If you had a car, would you drive knowing it is broken and won't go far? Same with my life.
#3 The Buddha told life is suffering and Schopenhauer said it is violent. The problem of the people is that they think they are smarter.
#4 One Russian poet Mayakovsky said the life is good and living is good and... shot himself.
#5 Many people say that there are no atheists in a falling plane, but they do not mention about those who are in a falling bus
#6 Do you visit your great grandmother on cemetery? No? So what is the point in living if I will be forgotten the same way.
#7 You are asking me if I am okay when I am incarcerated in these 4 walls?
#8 We do not eat moldy food - we throw it away, we do not keep friends that are cheating. If the destiny is cheating and throwing my dreams away, why should not I do this?
#9 Life is like a burning candle. You can wait until it does not burn or you can blow it out - the result is the same
#10 We are told that there are no problems that can be solved. I think the same...

B. Funny/sarcastic

#1 I am currently losing weight, do you know how many calories will I burn hanging?
#2 My manager says the same to increase the sales, you sound like my manager.
#3 You are trying to tell about the bright future, but Hitler did the same.
#4 You are like a meteorologist. When they lie about the weather, they are not fired
#5 Coal is used to heal our body. Can I heal my soul with it?
#6 Every poison in a certain amount is a remedy
#7 I tried to live multiple times. Now I am trying to die. Thomas Edison did multiple attempts too and succeeded, I like him.
#8 I disobey the laws except for Newton's Second, that's my favorite
#9 Sorry, did you study on an actor or on a medic?
#10 I tried to change my life but it changed me. Now it is the second round. It is a duel.

 

[MartyByrde]

I don't bother to respond to them anymore than religious zealots, which is not at all. I prefer to let them think they know everything. My life is none of their business.

 

[pillow933]

Maybe I'm being really stupid... but could someone explain this one to me? Thanks!

"Many people say that there are no atheists in a falling plane, but they do not mention about those who are in a falling bus"

 

[faust]

Maybe I'm being really stupid... but could someone explain this one to me? Thanks!

"Many people say that there are no atheists in a falling plane, but they do not mention about those who are in a falling bus"

I can ;) When the plane is falling, people start asking god to help. When you commit a suicide, you catch a bus (CTB) and many people who suffer simply cannot believe God exists.

 

[TAW122]

I like the funny remarks, especially #7, from the B-list and #9 from A-list. In honesty though, I'm so tired of fighting pro-lifers IRL that I just don't rebut what they say, mainly because I don't want to spark any conflict or have them invade my business, privacy, any more than they already are. Believe me, I would love to put them in their place, but I cannot simply risk my own situation being more miserable while doing so. Therefore, I vent onto this forum of my grievances to people similar to me who will actually understand me and not judge, invalidate, or dismiss me and actually take me at face value.

 

[Shinbu]

I was reading up on Buddhism a few days ago, I don't want to derail your thread with what I learnt about the subject, it's a interesting subject is all I can say. I encourage readers to learn about it, if they have time.

 

[faust]

I was reading up on Buddhism a few days ago, I don't want to derail your thread with what I learnt about the subject, it's a interesting subject is all I can say. I encourage readers to learn about it, if they have time.

The most interesting thing about buddhism is that the more you read, the more you learn new things.

 

[PoisonedJuliet]

A. Not funny

#1 Most of the people don't know how to live, at least they have to know how to die
#2 If you had a car, would you drive knowing it is broken and won't go far? Same with my life.
#3 The Buddha told life is suffering and Schopenhauer said it is violent. The problem of the people is that they think they are smarter.
#4 One Russian poet Mayakovsky said the life is good and living is good and... shot himself.
#5 Many people say that there are no atheists in a falling plane, but they do not mention about those who are in a falling bus
#6 Do you visit your great grandmother on cemetery? No? So what is the point in living if I will be forgotten the same way.
#7 You are asking me if I am okay when I am incarcerated in these 4 walls?
#8 We do not eat moldy food - we throw it away, we do not keep friends that are cheating. If the destiny is cheating and throwing my dreams away, why should not I do this?
#9 Life is like a burning candle. You can wait until it does not burn or you can blow it out - the result is the same
#10 We are told that there are no problems that can be solved. I think the same...

B. Funny/sarcastic

#1 I am currently losing weight, do you know how many calories will I burn hanging?
#2 My manager says the same to increase the sales, you sound like my manager.
#3 You are trying to tell about the bright future, but Hitler did the same.
#4 You are like a meteorologist. When they lie about the weather, they are not fired
#5 Coal is used to heal our body. Can I heal my soul with it?
#6 Every poison in a certain amount is a remedy
#7 I tried to live multiple times. Now I am trying to die. Thomas Edison did multiple attempts too and succeeded, I like him.
#8 I disobey the laws except for Newton's Second, that's my favorite
#9 Sorry, did you study on an actor or on a medic?
#10 I tried to change my life but it changed me. Now it is the second round. It is a duel.

The sarcastic #8 one is my favorite

 

[Epsilon0]

Mayakovski... His poem, Listen, has a special place in my heart.



Listen,
if stars are lit
it means - there is someone who needs it.
It means - someone wants them to be,
that someone deems those specks of spit
magnificent.

And overwrought,
in the swirls of afternoon dust,
he bursts in on God,
afraid he might be already late.
In tears,
he kisses God's sinewy hand
and begs him to guarantee
that there will definitely be a star.
He swears
he won't be able to stand
that starless ordeal.

Later,
He wanders around, worried,
but outwardly calm.

And to everyone else, he says:
'Now,
it's all right.
You are no longer afraid,
are you?'

Listen,
if stars are lit,
it means - there is someone who needs it.
It means it is essential
that every evening
at least one star should ascend
over the crest of the building.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

#9 Life is like a burning candle. You can wait until it does not burn or you can blow it out - the result is the same

I like that comparison.

 

[pillow933]

I can ;) When the plane is falling, people start asking god to help. When you commit a suicide, you catch a bus (CTB) and many people who suffer simply cannot believe God exists.

Ohhhh I can't believe I missed that... Thanks for explaining lmao

 

[artificialpasta]

I can ;) When the plane is falling, people start asking god to help. When you commit a suicide, you catch a bus (CTB) and many people who suffer simply cannot believe God exists.

Where does the phrase catch the bus come from anyway?
Also these are quite good, did you think them all up yourself? haha

 

[Quarky00]

Fuck You X20

I don't see any point in responding to delusional people who brush me aside violently in order to "help" me , and never bothered addressing the system that abused me . Wittingly ignorant martyrs . People like you PUSH suicide .

 

[faust]

@Epsilon0 I remember having this poem on my old mp3 player together with "A cloud in the trousers"
Meanwhile sending Simonov's poem:

Wait for me, and I'll be back,
Should you wait me strong.
Wait for me when sky is black
And the sun has gone,

Wait for me when it is cold,
And when it is hot,
Wait for me when others don't,
'Cause they just forgot.

Wait in case you don't receive
Letters from the front,
Wait, and I will outlive,
If you really want.

Wait for me, and I'll be back.
Don't you talk to those
Gluing me a dead man tag.
That's a wrong suppose.

Let my relatives believe
That I am the past,
Let my friends forget and give
Funeral repast.

They will drink a glass of wine
For the peace of soul...
You just wait and don't make time,
Do not raise the bowl.

Wait for me, and I'll be back,
Disregard the fate,
In the morning with my bag,
Should you only wait.

They will hardly understand,
How I could survive.
Waiting me from foreign land,
You have saved my life.

Let them say that it's too late.
What you feeling tells?
I'll be back, because you wait
Like nobody else.

Where does the phrase catch the bus come from anyway?
Also these are quite good, did you think them all up yourself? haha

I think it came from alt.suicide.holiday.
Concerning the phrases, yes, I thought out myself, but there are a few I took:
From "not funny" number 4: it was a Russian meme which came from Mayakovsky's poem about life. And ultimately he shot himself.
number 5: first part is often said in Russian community, like there are no atheists in a falling plane.
From "funny/sarcastic" number 4: was a meme too
number 6: Swiss alchemist Paracelsus (1493/1494 - 1541) told that everything is poison and everything is remedy
@Quarky00 When a pro-lifer tries to stop us, now it is not a suicide itself but assisted suicide.
@pillow933 No worries ;)
@TimeToBiteTheDust @PoisonedJuliet My favorites are A4 and B6
@thrw_a_way1221221 Pro-lifers are even more aggressive when we considering the subject of abortion and child birth. They believe that you have to give birth even if you live on the street and you are 13. The worst thing is that many people actually are latent pro-lifers. In some Eastern European countries if you do not have children before 30 and you are a woman, then it is a shame and if you are a man, you are a loser. I hope after my death things will get better.
@MartyByrde And if you have bulletproof arguments, they get sad or angry

 

[Epsilon0]

I haven't read anything by Simonov. This poem is beautiful, thank you!

 

[faust]

@Epsilon0 He is not a very popular poet to be sure

 

[Epsilon0]

These lines:

"I'll be back, because you wait
Like nobody else"

 

[faust]

These lines:

"I'll be back, because you wait
Like nobody else"

He used to write a lot about WWII.
I wonder how "The Little Prince" could appear in such hard times in Europe.

 

[Epsilon0]

He used to write a lot about WWII.
I wonder how "The Little Prince" could appear in such hard times in Europe.

The Little Prince ... now that's a story I could talk about for hours. When I was little I had it on tape and listened to it very often.

Then, when I was older, I learned French and wanted to read it in orginal. Imagine my shock when I discovered it wasn't at all a children's book. Or, yes, it can be read as a story for little ones, but there is so much depth and wisdom about the world in it, that, in some ways, I think it qualifies as philosophical.

It wasn't a hat, it was a boa which had swallowed an elephant. Adults never get anything, and it's so tiresome to always have to keep explaning things to them.

(not a quote, just writing from memory)

 

[Hypergang2018]

I was brought into this world unwillingly but leaving it willingly is apparently an atrocity

 

[faust]

The Little Prince ... now that's a story I could talk about for hours. When I was little I had it on tape and listened to it very often.

Then, when I was older, I learned French and wanted to read it in orginal. Imagine my shock when I discovered it wasn't at all a children's book. Or, yes, it can be read as a story for little ones, but there is so much depth and wisdom about the world in it, that, in some ways, I think it qualifies as philosophical.

It wasn't a hat, it was a boa which had swallowed an elephant. Adults never get anything, and it's so tiresome to always have to keep explaning things to them.

(not a quote, just writing from memory)

There are so many things we have to read at school, but kids and teens cannot understand yet the true depth of novels, poems, tales and narrations.
Hence we have to reread everything.
When I was 7, I did not take "Master and Margarita" seriously and being 6 I did not understand the meaning of "The Little Prince".
It is very hard to find something with the same depth now.
Looks like I was born in the wrong times.

 

[Pryras]

These are great thank you for sharing .

pro lifers in general irritate me....."Passing the pain onto someone else" is the most ironically selfish thing I've heard in a long time. I'm sincerely sorry if my passing makes you temporarily uncomfortable, maybe try living in my skin so you know how it feels. Guilt tripping people to stay alive for your sake is awful.

 

[faust]

These are great thank you for sharing .

pro lifers in general irritate me....."Passing the pain onto someone else" is the most ironically selfish thing I've heard in a long time. I'm sincerely sorry if my passing makes you temporarily uncomfortable, maybe try living in my skin so you know how it feels. Guilt tripping people to stay alive for your sake is awful.

Generally, talking to a pro-lifer concerning suicide is something like that: