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MBG

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Nitschke said final testing of Sarco would be last summer then actual use before 2024. Well we're now starting our 3rd month in 2024 and still no word of Sarco use or new deadline.


Maybe he should spend less time & effort on opposing capital punishment in the USA?
 
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Nova

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Honestly, I don't expect it to become a reality before another decade, if ever. The whole thing feels like a thought experiment, probably just designed to bring some media attention around the subject of euthanasia, not to become a real device.
I mean, now he wants to develop a convoluted AI process that will greenlight the use of the device. I think there's more chance of an alien invasion or Skynet destroying humanity sooner than this Sarco thing becoming a reality.

The whole thing is a joke not to be taken seriously.
 
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MBG

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Another month down and still no news of Sarco's first use.

Nine months left in 2024…
 
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Seems almost like a joke after all this time, feel sad for the people actually waiting for this contraption. Aren't the price for these like insanely high? And one time use only?

There isn't any highly technology secret they're holding us from building it ourself, it's an airtight box with a huge nitrogen tank.
 
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UKscotty

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It's just a box with a nitrogen tank inside, but he wants 15 grand for it. Scam even if he did sell it.
 
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NSA

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Feb 21, 2022
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Feels like all those "mainstream" right to die reps are scammers. We need a new talking head
 
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It's just a box with a nitrogen tank inside, but he wants 15 grand for it. Scam even if he did sell it.
Thought it would be even more expensive actually. The cost is what I understand is that they 3d print it since no manufacturer is willing to provide parts for it.

But for 15 000$ a welder and some sheets of aluminum could do it significantly cheaper and probably more well built. But that would be to easy.
 
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uzuf86

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Jan 1, 2024
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We're better off with inert gas and the exit bag
 
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It's just a box with a nitrogen tank inside, but he wants 15 grand for it. Scam even if he did sell it.
It does look glamorous though, you can die with style😎😎
 
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NSA

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I had an idea for awhile, making a giant plexiglass coffin with a gas attachment, like how you diy fish tanks. Rl sleeping Beauty.

But probably not so beautiful after a few days in this heat lol
 
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I had an idea for awhile, making a giant plexiglass coffin with a gas attachment, like how you diy fish tanks. Rl sleeping Beauty.

But probably not so beautiful after a few days in this heat lol
That's actually pretty good idea for diy coffin, making it in plexiglas would also help preventing claustrophobia.

You could probably do it from wood but for rigidity sakes maybe welded steel beams, either will work. The door is the trickiest since it will have to provide a good air seal and close from the inside.
 
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MBG

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Another month down and still no news of Sarco's first use.

Nine months left in 2024…
Four months down, 8 to go and still no news about the Sarco pod's first use.

Since we cannot count on the Sarco pod being available for a quick, painless non terrifying nitrogen exit, I wonder if the designer of the R2D Rebreather lll is working on a new version to address the problems some here had with it?

ETA: last I heard PDFs of the plans would be free online, so there was no profit motive for sales or use.

Also IIRC the latest plans are for it to be reusable, spreading printing costs over several customers making each use less expensive.
 
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DeIetedUser4739

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Just buy a fridge/freezer and take the shelves out.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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May 21, 2023
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What's "Sarco". It's an airtight space that is being filled with Nitrogen while someone who wants to die is inside. It's the same like inert gas with EEBD / Exit-bag / SCBA mask. That's how I understand it. Just a tool to make "assisted suicide" even more expensive.
 
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Begotten

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lol forget that
 
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M48 Patton

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It's just a box with a nitrogen tank inside, but he wants 15 grand for it. Scam even if he did sell it.
Do you think he would use it himself if he had something terminal or life altering?

Try before you buy.
 
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MBG

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Jul 14, 2023
349
It's just a box with a nitrogen tank inside, but he wants 15 grand for it. Scam even if he did sell it.
Where does Exit International, The Last Resort or Nitschke say you have to spend $15,000 to use the Sarco??? 🤦🏻‍♂️

You do NOT have to 3D print your own: that would be like buying a taxi to take you across town. It is NOT a single use device: like a taxi, once it takes you to your destination another person can use it to transport them. Current estimate is $20 US per use. (Other expenses include travel to Switzerland, burial or cremation expenses, etc.)

 
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J&L383

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Jul 18, 2023
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Supposedly we should see the first use this year sometime.
 
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MBG

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Jul 14, 2023
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Exit International posted a timeline of the development of the Sarco. Looks like the original first user has backed out. Hopefully it won't take too long for another user to step forward to take their place.

 
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doneforlife

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Jul 18, 2023
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Exit International posted a timeline of the development of the Sarco. Looks like the original first user has backed out. Hopefully it won't take too long for another user to step forward to take their place.

Any idea why the user has backed out ?
 
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MBG

Specialist
Jul 14, 2023
349
Another article about the Sarco maiden voyage fiasco with more details as to what happened:

The group's founder and the Sarco pod's inventor Nitschke explained that Person X was suffering from 'deteriorating mental health', which is why her assisted suicide and the debut of his creation has been 'aborted'.

He said: "Given her situation, it is clear that this is a person who should now be receiving mental health care, rather than any suicide assistance."



Nitschke said: "Given the media scrutiny surrounding Person X, all future clients will need to be warned of the possibility that, despite our best efforts to keep their death private, any first use of Sarco will be the subject of intense media interest and reporting."

He explained that concerns had been raised regard Person X after she experienced 'multiple episodes of significant cognitive lapses bordering on pre-psychosis' as the date of her scheduled death loomed.

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J&L383

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Jul 18, 2023
590
Exit International posted a timeline of the development of the Sarco. Looks like the original first user has backed out. Hopefully it won't take too long for another user to step forward to take their place.

Supposedly they have seven other "candidates" it's going to get a lot of bad press and attention, but hopefully over time that will fade away. I remain hopeful, and at least it will provide an option that doesn't include needing a prescription from a doctor.
 
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Supposedly they have seven other "candidates" it's going to get a lot of bad press and attention, but hopefully over time that will fade away. I remain hopeful, and at least it will provide an option that doesn't include needing a prescription from a doctor.
Hopefully the new maiden voyager is on their way to Switzerland right now and first use will be this month (August).

I agree: if the first three go off without a hitch the media will back off (like Virgin Galactic space trips).
 
Plato'sCaveDweller

Plato'sCaveDweller

Sleep is good, death is better.
Sep 2, 2024
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One of my dreams for this world is to have Futurama suicide booths in society. Imagine paying a mere $0.25 and you're out of here, simple as that. Imagine society being that comfortable with suicide and allowing others to make decisions about their own lives. Sarco is a nice step forward, but I feel we are hundreds of years off from any sort of Futurama style Right to Die globally, or any other form of a real Right to Die for all. Hell, that day may never come. But sometimes, all you have are your fantasies.
 

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